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Ritalin IS A DRUG

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  1. Mark is famous for pushing drigs and making titles as if we need MORE Ritalin!
    Ritalin is good for everything. Blah.

    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin Helps Beat Cancer Fatigue
    From: Joe Parsons [email hidden]
    Date: 12/20/2003 7:10 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:11:57 -0600, "SumBuny"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [snip]

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    Another of the ingredients listed is "Choline." I looked to see what that
    was and found:

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    http://community.healthgate.com/GetContent.asp?siteid=iHerb&docid=/tnp/p


    g000469

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    ""Choline has only recently been recognized as an essential nutrient.
    Choline is part of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, which plays a major
    role in the brain; for this reason, many studies have been designed to look
    at choline's role in brain function.

    Choline functions as a part of a major biochemical process in the body
    called methylation; choline acts as a methyl donor.

    In higher dosages, minor but annoying side effects may occur, such as
    abdominal discomfort, diarrhea, and nausea. Maximum safe dosages for young
    children, pregnant or nursing women, or those with severe liver or kidney
    disease have not been determined.""

    Hmmmm...sounds like one of her ingredients is a drug that affects the brain,
    and affects methyl....and she complains about methylphenidate? Do I see a
    pot calling a kettle black? She is pushing a drug that affects the
    brain...while decrying medications that do the same????

    Not to mention that "max safe dosages for young children has not been
    determined..." This is what she is insisting is safer for our kids?

    She also lists many types of "friendly bacteria", the most widely known is
    acidophilus...however, this also does not have an established safe level for
    kids:

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    http://my.webmd.com/content/drugs/1/4046_1398?src=Inktomi&condition=Drug


    s_and_Herbs_(New)

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    ""There is no information available regarding the use of acidophilus by
    children. Do not give any herbal / health supplement to a child without
    first talking to the child's doctor.

    Although uncommon, allergic reactions to acidophilus have been reported.
    Stop taking acidophilus and seek emergency medical attention if you
    experience symptoms of a serious allergic reaction including difficulty
    breathing; closing of your throat; swelling of your lips, tongue, or face;
    or hives."""

    Wow...this woman insists that taking methylphenidate is dangerous, and then
    she offers something that I *know* causes hives topically, and other
    ingredients that have been known to produce anaphylactic shock?? Oh, yea,
    let me stop taking something that has proven useful and not dangerous, and
    give me hives and shock!!!

    Yeah, but hers is all natural, Buny--it doesn't come from one of those nasty
    pharmaceutical companies!

    Besides--what could you have against the poor woman turning a profit?

    Joe Parsons

    It cutting into the Ritalin sales???

    Jan

  2. <snip>

    Well Jan, you got me there, I cannot deny that ritalin is a drug.

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  3. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Mark is famous for pushing drigs and making titles as if we need MORE


    Ritalin!

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    Ritalin is good for everything. Blah.

    So far, it has been shown to be beneficial for treating AD/HD, cancer
    fatigue, drug addiction, and, there is evidence that it may prevent certain
    types of breat tumors in lab animals.

    OH, and Joe Parsons and I are old friends, and we share many common
    interests.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Ritalin Helps Beat Cancer Fatigue
    From: Joe Parsons [email hidden]
    Date: 12/20/2003 7:10 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:11:57 -0600, "SumBuny"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    Another of the ingredients listed is "Choline." I looked to see what


    that

    Quoted message said:
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    was and found:

    Quoted message said:

    http://community.healthgate.com/GetContent.asp?siteid=iHerb&docid=/tnp/p


    g000469

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ""Choline has only recently been recognized as an essential nutrient.
    Choline is part of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, which plays a


    major

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    role in the brain; for this reason, many studies have been designed to


    look

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    at choline's role in brain function.

    Choline functions as a part of a major biochemical process in the body
    called methylation; choline acts as a methyl donor.

    In higher dosages, minor but annoying side effects may occur, such as
    abdominal discomfort, diarrhea, and nausea. Maximum safe dosages for


    young

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    Quoted message said:

    children, pregnant or nursing women, or those with severe liver or


    kidney

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    disease have not been determined.""

    Hmmmm...sounds like one of her ingredients is a drug that affects the


    brain,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and affects methyl....and she complains about methylphenidate? Do I see


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pot calling a kettle black? She is pushing a drug that affects the
    brain...while decrying medications that do the same????

    Not to mention that "max safe dosages for young children has not been
    determined..." This is what she is insisting is safer for our kids?

    She also lists many types of "friendly bacteria", the most widely known


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    acidophilus...however, this also does not have an established safe level


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kids:

    Quoted message said:

    http://my.webmd.com/content/drugs/1/4046_1398?src=Inktomi&condition=Drug


    s_and_Herbs_(New)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ""There is no information available regarding the use of acidophilus by
    children. Do not give any herbal / health supplement to a child without
    first talking to the child's doctor.

    Although uncommon, allergic reactions to acidophilus have been reported.
    Stop taking acidophilus and seek emergency medical attention if you
    experience symptoms of a serious allergic reaction including difficulty
    breathing; closing of your throat; swelling of your lips, tongue, or


    face;

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    or hives."""

    Wow...this woman insists that taking methylphenidate is dangerous, and


    then

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    she offers something that I *know* causes hives topically, and other
    ingredients that have been known to produce anaphylactic shock?? Oh,


    yea,

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    let me stop taking something that has proven useful and not dangerous,


    and

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    give me hives and shock!!!

    Yeah, but hers is all natural, Buny--it doesn't come from one of those


    nasty

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    pharmaceutical companies!

    Besides--what could you have against the poor woman turning a profit?

    Joe Parsons

    It cutting into the Ritalin sales???

    Jan

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