REM During Waking Period ?

(addingnoSign) said:

if i close my eyes, either during meditation or just
laying down, i get what i can only describe as rapid eye
movement that(assumption) normally occurs only during
sleep. is that what it is?

No. What you're probably feeling are simply your eyelids
twitching. They'll stop when you sufficiently relax
them. Try it.

addingnoSign <[email hidden]> wrote:
: if i close my eyes, either during meditation or just
: laying down, i get what i can only describe as rapid eye
: movement that(assumption) normally occurs only during
: sleep. is that what it is? after awhile i drift off into
: surreal state, but it is not something that truly
: resembles a sleeping dream. the REM is practically
: instantaneous - just sitting back in my chair with eyes-
: closed brings it about.

: i get plenty of rest.

: is there an explanation for this?

Look up the terms "hypnogogic" and "hypnopompic".

Does that answer it?

Griffin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<2004052023270016807%griffin@wellscom>...

Quoted message said:

On 2004-05-20 23:16:32 -0400, [email hidden]

(addingnoSign) said:

if i close my eyes, either during meditation or just
laying down, i get what i can only describe as rapid eye
movement that(assumption) normally occurs only during
sleep. is that what it is?

No. What you're probably feeling are simply your eyelids
twitching. They'll stop when you sufficiently relax
them. Try it.

it may not have been obvious from my post, but i have to
actually "let my muscles go" for it to happen. it does not
occur in an upright position(such as the posture assumed
while typing this), i must lean back in my chair and become
totally relaxed. it definitely is not eyelid-twitching; i
woulda noticed by now, this not being a recent development.

after 20-30 minutes of not moving my body ends up semi-
paralysed.. then comes the surreal state previously
mentioned. obviously, being for the most part awake, i am
still aware of sensory stimuli and most of the surrealness
involves whatever is around me. for some reason or another,
i get the impression i am underwater.

bright light prevents the eye-movement, if that is relevant.