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recumbent trail question

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  1. Hi

    I am just in the process of building a SWB recumbent and have got to the
    critical part of positioning the head tube on the frame.

    I have done some calculations using formulae found on the internet and am
    probably gonna end up with about 20mm, with a head tube angle of just under
    70 degrees. I was going to give a bit of tolerance and go for 40mm (ish)
    but this gives a head tube angle of 65 degrees which looks too low.

    Rake of the forks is 65mm and radius of the wheel (with tyre fitted) is
    250mm

    I was thinking that the lowering of the bike when the rider sits on would
    lessen the trail, but assuming the bike lowers equally front and rear (thus
    not altering the head tube angle, i have to make some assumptions) this wont
    alter any of the equation [trail = (radius of wheel x cos of head tube) -
    Rake / sin of the head tube] so it will remain the same.

    The only part of the equation that could alter is the radius of the wheel
    due to compression of the tyre but this is negligible.

    Any comments appreciated

    Gary

  2. You might want to check here:-

    http://bikesmithdesign.com/Design/12Steps.html

    Hope this helps.

    Lewis.

  3. It all depends on the height of your seat and the angle of the seat
    back. Among others. 60 mm trail would be more to your liking. The best
    idea is to build a "boiler plate" fork with a slot going backward. ride
    the bike and move the front wheel back in the slot until you are happy.
    Then build a real fork.

    Bill "still don't understand why it is bad to 'top post'" Patterson

    geepeetee said:

    Hi

    I am just in the process of building a SWB recumbent and have got to the
    critical part of positioning the head tube on the frame.

    I have done some calculations using formulae found on the internet and am
    probably gonna end up with about 20mm, with a head tube angle of just under
    70 degrees. I was going to give a bit of tolerance and go for 40mm (ish)
    but this gives a head tube angle of 65 degrees which looks too low.

    Rake of the forks is 65mm and radius of the wheel (with tyre fitted) is
    250mm

    I was thinking that the lowering of the bike when the rider sits on would
    lessen the trail, but assuming the bike lowers equally front and rear (thus
    not altering the head tube angle, i have to make some assumptions) this wont
    alter any of the equation [trail = (radius of wheel x cos of head tube) -
    Rake / sin of the head tube] so it will remain the same.

    The only part of the equation that could alter is the radius of the wheel
    due to compression of the tyre but this is negligible.

    Any comments appreciated

    Gary

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  4. Hi

    Thanks for reply, would 65 degrees be ok, i know ,most bikes seem to aim for
    70degrees.

    One guy said i should go for 15mm trail but i thought this was too little,
    thought i was going on the safe side with 40 (ish)

    thanks for your replies

    Gary
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    Hi

    I am just in the process of building a SWB recumbent and have got to the
    critical part of positioning the head tube on the frame.

    I have done some calculations using formulae found on the internet and am
    probably gonna end up with about 20mm, with a head tube angle of just
    under 70 degrees. I was going to give a bit of tolerance and go for 40mm
    (ish) but this gives a head tube angle of 65 degrees which looks too low.

    Rake of the forks is 65mm and radius of the wheel (with tyre fitted) is
    250mm

    I was thinking that the lowering of the bike when the rider sits on would
    lessen the trail, but assuming the bike lowers equally front and rear
    (thus not altering the head tube angle, i have to make some assumptions)
    this wont alter any of the equation [trail = (radius of wheel x cos of
    head tube) - Rake / sin of the head tube] so it will remain the same.

    The only part of the equation that could alter is the radius of the wheel
    due to compression of the tyre but this is negligible.

    Any comments appreciated

    Gary

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