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Reasons for a long life

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  1. I have survived to 74 in spite of severe diabetic
    complications. WHY

    Well, it might be because most of my ancestors on both sides
    died well into their 90's. I suspect I will not make it. A
    few clinkers along the way has taken it's toll. You can
    accelerate your demise but there is doubts that "modern
    medicine" makes much difference.We publicize the few cases
    where there is a gain. The big gain was the introduction of
    antibiotics and sanitation. Not a lot else. Some things we
    see today do extend life a bit but what about the quality of
    life? But we see great promises. This pill-------. This diet-------
    . This fad---------. .

  2. Guy - I think luck has some part in it. I'll be 76 in 2
    months and I've already passed my mother's age at death and
    I'm within a year of my father's age at death. Both died of
    heart complications. I had a bypass over 6 years ago and
    have probably had fixed what killed my parents. Neither, by
    the way, had diabetes. So - medical improvements have
    probably made a BIG difference for me. My daughter, in the
    recovery room, told me that her employer, Jet Propulsion Lab
    (NASA and Cal Tech) had made some of the "stuff" that
    wriggled through my heart and showed up on the X-rays. Luck?
    Modern medicine? Don't know - but I REALLY appreciate being
    around. Nan, Type 2

  3. (Nan Eklund) said:

    Guy - I think luck has some part in it. I'll be 76 in 2
    months and I've already passed my mother's age at death and
    I'm within a year of my father's age at death. Both died of
    heart complications. I had a bypass over 6 years ago and
    have probably had fixed what killed my parents. Neither, by
    the way, had diabetes. So - medical improvements have
    probably made a BIG difference for me. My daughter, in the
    recovery room, told me that her employer, Jet Propulsion
    Lab (NASA and Cal Tech) had made some of the "stuff" that
    wriggled through my heart and showed up on the X-rays.
    Luck? Modern medicine? Don't know - but I REALLY appreciate
    being around. Nan, Type 2

    Nan, what bothers me is I was a very productive person and
    was proud of what I achieved. Now I feel like a parasite at
    times. I read technical paper and lose it too often. I
    suppose that I felt my life was the work and it is gone. Old
    age without a life is not the greatest. But I stay busy in
    the areas where I can still function. Better than the
    alternative but wish it were better. I am five years past
    the bypass and that is a marker. Really, all I worry about
    is the discomfort that comes with diabetes. Guy

  4. Quoted message said:

    Some things we see today do extend life a bit but what
    about the quality of life? But we see great promises. This
    pill-------. This diet-------. This fad---------. .

    Yeah. One thing that a lot of us can do is exercise. That is
    better than a pill or fad. Some of us can't exercise, but it
    may be that certain breathing techniques can be practiced
    that simulate aerobic exercise.

    My father in law is in at home hospice treatment for
    congestive heart failure. To get in this program his doctor
    had to certify that he was expected to live six months or
    less. That was a year and a half ago and he is in better
    shape now than then. There may be a number of factors,
    including the excellent hospice care.

    He started getting sort of dramatically better when he began
    eating an artichoke every other day. Sounds weird, but
    stranger things have happened. The only reason he doesn't
    eat one every day is the expense. His wife steams it and he
    just savors each leaf.

    I find this interesting because traditionally artichoke
    supposedly has some medicinal properties.

    He is not dancing a jig, however.

    BL

    "As the waves pass the rock, their shape is changed. There
    is a hologram of the rock within the wave that comes forward
    and crashes on the beach, then there's a reflected wave
    back." Ralph Abraham

    "I'd like to learn to windsurf." BL

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