Re: well....[censored].

Roger Zoul said:

I object to your characterization of Marsha/Ohio as one of "these types".
You're wrong on that count.

Ah, chivalry isn't dead after all : )

Marsha/Ohio

JC Der Koenig said:

As an aside: Why is there such a strong correlation between Webtv and
idiocy?

Heh.

Marsha/Ohio

Quoted message said:

Om~ "I finished the last of the Tequila >last night."

Let me ask a personal question. Does ttequilla makeyou want to get a
tattoo?

....or is it just me?

LassChance

Start LC~5-16-05
202-194-165
(i only weigh on Sunday)

Quoting JC Der Koenig:

Quoted message said:

As an aside: Why is there such a strong correlation between Webtv and
idiocy?

LOL at this whole thread. Can't help it...

"Suze" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoting JC Der Koenig:

Quoted message said:

As an aside: Why is there such a strong correlation between Webtv and
idiocy?

LOL at this whole thread. Can't help it...

Laughing is supposed to help you lose weight.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

"Suze" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoting JC Der Koenig:

Quoted message said:

As an aside: Why is there such a strong correlation between Webtv and
idiocy?

LOL at this whole thread. Can't help it...

Laughing is supposed to help you lose weight.

Then I should be skinny, because I laugh lots every day. Oh, wait, I
also eat lots every day. Nevermind.

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

"Suze" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoting JC Der Koenig:
>As an aside: Why is there such a strong correlation between Webtv and
>idiocy?

LOL at this whole thread. Can't help it...

Laughing is supposed to help you lose weight.

Then I should be skinny, because I laugh lots every day. Oh, wait, I
also eat lots every day. Nevermind.

There was a study published recently...

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=25669

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2002257729_healthlaughter01.html

http://www.annecollins.com/diet_tips/laughter-weight-loss.htm

HTH

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Lass Chance) said:

Quoted message said:

Om~ "I finished the last of the Tequila >last night."

Let me ask a personal question. Does ttequilla makeyou want to get a
tattoo?

...or is it just me?

LassChance

Nah... <lol>
I only have tatoo'd eyeliner.

Love it too! Was painful but worth it.

Tequila gives me the munchies, which is bad!!!!!!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Bad things happen to everyone, over and over.

No, they don't.

Quoted message said:

Anyway, I hope your comment wasn't meant to imply that I made up all the
bad things I've been through, because I also have had my fair share of
wonderful things in my life.

I meant to imply that some people make poor decisions over and over, and
others have the Hardy Har Har syndrome. But now that you've mentioned it, I
guess I'll always have to wonder how much of the stuff you've simply made
up. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Bad things happen to everyone, over and over.

No, they don't.

Although random "bad luck" events can occur, often they can be traced to
neglecting a prior, easily repairable problem that has now compounded.
Avoidance of fixing a popped out board in a fence that would require a few
nails and 5 minutes of time, could morph into having to spend even more in
time and money to get a new board, cut it, and finding the right color of
stain. It could easily turn into a 4 hour job due to neglect.
Some people may think it was a string of bad luck that, the board got
popped out, then after a month it got lost, and then a dog came in and dug
holes all over the lawn, and then to top it off, it takes half a day to fix
the fence. This same person may even have had to also buy a new handsaw
because he was unlucky that old one got rusty from leaving it in the rain
from the last unfinished repair job.
Being prepared for something in advance of it happening is also a way of
avoiding "bad luck". Factories would call this, Planned Maintenance. If the
fence in the above scenario was checked occasionally for loose boards, the
event of the popped out board may not have even occurred in the first place.
It is impossible to be prepared for every event, but steps can be taken to
minimize many problems. This pertains to all aspects of life. Not just in a
mechanical sense.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyway, I hope your comment wasn't meant to imply that I made up all the
bad things I've been through, because I also have had my fair share of
wonderful things in my life.

I meant to imply that some people make poor decisions over and over, and
others have the Hardy Har Har syndrome. But now that you've mentioned it,

I

Quoted message said:

guess I'll always have to wonder how much of the stuff you've simply made
up. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

Luna said:

Now I've got this superstitious fear that every time I quit smoking,
life will throw something even worse at me to test me, since that's been
the pattern so far. But, it's bad luck to be superstitious, so I'm
quitting again this weekend.

I've been reading Allen Carr's "Easy Way to Stop Smoking." Actually,
I've read it for the third time, and I've laid 'em down and stopped.

Occasional twinges, but nothing I can't handle. When it's been a
month, I'll declare myself a nonsmoker. 🙂

The book is worth it - it's a completely different approach than
anything I'd seen before. It was recommended to me by my best friend,
who used it to quit smoking, too, and I would have sworn I would have
quit before she did.

Best friend recommends reading the book until it truly sinks in.

Myra

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Bad things happen to everyone, over and over.

No, they don't.

Sure they do. Or do you know some blessed people who never have a tire
blow out, never have a person or a pet they love die or get really sick,
never get sick themselves, never get fired or laid off, never get
dumped, never get injured, never get abused, never lose their wallet,
never are the victims of a crime? I don't know anyone who hasn't had
most or all of these things happen to them. No one gets a perfect life.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyway, I hope your comment wasn't meant to imply that I made up all the
bad things I've been through, because I also have had my fair share of
wonderful things in my life.

I meant to imply that some people make poor decisions over and over, and
others have the Hardy Har Har syndrome.

My poor decisions were to use smoking and eating as a palliative for the
stresses in my life, but most of the major stresses themselves were not
a result of any decision on my part. I probably would have been a much
more physically healthy person if I had chosen instead to just let
myself react to things, just go ahead and cry and crawl into a hole for
a few weeks, rather than trying to do what I thought at the time was
"butching up," but what in reality was denying and suppressing my
feelings and self-medicating with food and nicotine.

A lot of the things we think of as "bad luck" really are "bad choices,"
I will agree with you there, but I think I'm pretty good at knowing the
difference in my own life. Having my house broken into: not my choice,
not my fault. Letting that be an excuse to start back smoking: my
choice, my fault.

Quoted message said:

But now that you've mentioned it, I
guess I'll always have to wonder how much of the stuff you've simply made
up. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

I haven't made anything up. If I were in the business of making things
up to get sympathy, I think I'd have made my life out to be a lot more
tragic than it is, because all in all it's pretty boring and no one will
be making a Lifetime movie of my life any time soon. I think for most
people, myself included, most of the time life is pretty good, which
just makes the bad things stand out more and make more of an impression.
I mean, how often do you hear on the news, "Today at such and such high
school, kids learned a lot of stuff, hung out with their friends a bit,
ate lunch, went to some more classes, and went home," as opposed to
"Today at such and such high school there was a shooting in which 10
students were killed" even though the first scenario is actually the
one that happens the overwhelming majority of the time?

It's the same with the way a lot of people filter their own experiences.
The good days are the norm, so the bad ones seem more important just
because of their rarity.

In article <Bw7qe.1628354$6l.633612@pd7tw2no>,

Tom G said:

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Bad things happen to everyone, over and over.

No, they don't.

Although random "bad luck" events can occur, often they can be traced to
neglecting a prior, easily repairable problem that has now compounded.
Avoidance of fixing a popped out board in a fence that would require a few
nails and 5 minutes of time, could morph into having to spend even more in
time and money to get a new board, cut it, and finding the right color of
stain. It could easily turn into a 4 hour job due to neglect.
Some people may think it was a string of bad luck that, the board got
popped out, then after a month it got lost, and then a dog came in and dug
holes all over the lawn, and then to top it off, it takes half a day to fix
the fence. This same person may even have had to also buy a new handsaw
because he was unlucky that old one got rusty from leaving it in the rain
from the last unfinished repair job.
Being prepared for something in advance of it happening is also a way of
avoiding "bad luck". Factories would call this, Planned Maintenance. If the
fence in the above scenario was checked occasionally for loose boards, the
event of the popped out board may not have even occurred in the first place.
It is impossible to be prepared for every event, but steps can be taken to
minimize many problems. This pertains to all aspects of life. Not just in a
mechanical sense.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Yes yes yes!! That's totally true. The kicker is that "it is impossible
to be prepared for every event." I think the way we live now, so
dependent on ever more complicated machines for our day to day lives,
adds a lot more things that can go wrong. And a lot of those things
that can go wrong are really outside the expertise of most people. With
a newer car, for instance, so much of it is computerized that the
average Joe isn't going to be able to fix a problem in his own garage at
home any more. That's just one example, but you get my gist.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Myra said:

Luna said:

Now I've got this superstitious fear that every time I quit smoking,
life will throw something even worse at me to test me, since that's been
the pattern so far. But, it's bad luck to be superstitious, so I'm
quitting again this weekend.

I've been reading Allen Carr's "Easy Way to Stop Smoking." Actually,
I've read it for the third time, and I've laid 'em down and stopped.

Occasional twinges, but nothing I can't handle. When it's been a
month, I'll declare myself a nonsmoker. 🙂

The book is worth it - it's a completely different approach than
anything I'd seen before. It was recommended to me by my best friend,
who used it to quit smoking, too, and I would have sworn I would have
quit before she did.

Best friend recommends reading the book until it truly sinks in.

Myra

Thanks Myra! I'll look for it tomorrow. Since I'm doing this one
without NRT, I'll need a good plan.

Luna said:

Thanks Myra! I'll look for it tomorrow. Since I'm doing this one
without NRT, I'll need a good plan.

Good because Carr absolutely does *not* approve of nicotine replace
therapy. He also says to keep right on smoking while you're reading
it.

I paid $6.95 at B&N for the book.

Read it as many times as you need to.

And I'm your quitting buddy! LOL!

Myra

In article <[email hidden]>,

Myra said:

Luna said:

Thanks Myra! I'll look for it tomorrow. Since I'm doing this one
without NRT, I'll need a good plan.

Good because Carr absolutely does *not* approve of nicotine replace
therapy. He also says to keep right on smoking while you're reading
it.

I don't know if that's going to work, since I've got half a pack left
and my plan was just to not buy any more, but we'll see.

Quoted message said:

I paid $6.95 at B&N for the book.

Read it as many times as you need to.

And I'm your quitting buddy! LOL!

Myra

Cool! I try to participate in alt.support.stop-smoking, but the chaos
in there drives me nuts, especially in the early stages of a quit. I
get so foggy I can barely read anything anyway, so it's tough trying to
deal with all the acronyms I don't know, inside jokes, replies that
don't quote what they're replying to, and posts that seem like people
have programmed macros for "One day at a time, you can do it, just don't
smoke no matter what!" instead of actually _responding_ to the actual
words someone's actually written. They mean well, but gawd.

Myra <[email hidden]> wrote:
:> On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 15:45:05 GMT, Luna
:> <[email hidden]> wrote:
:>
:> >Now I've got this superstitious fear that every time I quit smoking,
:> >life will throw something even worse at me to test me, since that's
:> >been the pattern so far. But, it's bad luck to be superstitious,
:> >so I'm quitting again this weekend.
:>
:> I've been reading Allen Carr's "Easy Way to Stop Smoking." Actually,
:> I've read it for the third time, and I've laid 'em down and stopped.
:>
:> Occasional twinges, but nothing I can't handle. When it's been a
:> month, I'll declare myself a nonsmoker. 🙂
:>
:> The book is worth it - it's a completely different approach than
:> anything I'd seen before. It was recommended to me by my best
:> friend, who used it to quit smoking, too, and I would have sworn I
:> would have quit before she did.
:>
:> Best friend recommends reading the book until it truly sinks in.

Honey, all this time I've been under the impression that *I* was your best
friend! 🙁

You have a bad case of the Hardy Har Har syndrome.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Bad things happen to everyone, over and over.

No, they don't.

Sure they do. Or do you know some blessed people who never have a tire
blow out, never have a person or a pet they love die or get really sick,
never get sick themselves, never get fired or laid off, never get
dumped, never get injured, never get abused, never lose their wallet,
never are the victims of a crime? I don't know anyone who hasn't had
most or all of these things happen to them. No one gets a perfect life.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyway, I hope your comment wasn't meant to imply that I made up all
the
bad things I've been through, because I also have had my fair share of
wonderful things in my life.

I meant to imply that some people make poor decisions over and over, and
others have the Hardy Har Har syndrome.

My poor decisions were to use smoking and eating as a palliative for the
stresses in my life, but most of the major stresses themselves were not
a result of any decision on my part. I probably would have been a much
more physically healthy person if I had chosen instead to just let
myself react to things, just go ahead and cry and crawl into a hole for
a few weeks, rather than trying to do what I thought at the time was
"butching up," but what in reality was denying and suppressing my
feelings and self-medicating with food and nicotine.

A lot of the things we think of as "bad luck" really are "bad choices,"
I will agree with you there, but I think I'm pretty good at knowing the
difference in my own life. Having my house broken into: not my choice,
not my fault. Letting that be an excuse to start back smoking: my
choice, my fault.

Quoted message said:

But now that you've mentioned it, I
guess I'll always have to wonder how much of the stuff you've simply made
up. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

I haven't made anything up. If I were in the business of making things
up to get sympathy, I think I'd have made my life out to be a lot more
tragic than it is, because all in all it's pretty boring and no one will
be making a Lifetime movie of my life any time soon. I think for most
people, myself included, most of the time life is pretty good, which
just makes the bad things stand out more and make more of an impression.
I mean, how often do you hear on the news, "Today at such and such high
school, kids learned a lot of stuff, hung out with their friends a bit,
ate lunch, went to some more classes, and went home," as opposed to
"Today at such and such high school there was a shooting in which 10
students were killed" even though the first scenario is actually the
one that happens the overwhelming majority of the time?

It's the same with the way a lot of people filter their own experiences.
The good days are the norm, so the bad ones seem more important just
because of their rarity.

I don't even know what that is.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

You have a bad case of the Hardy Har Har syndrome.

Quoted message said:

"Having my house broken into: not my
choice, not my fault. Letting that be an
excuse to start back smoking: my choice, >my fault."Luna

absolutely. This is a great thing to know. In other words, the break in
didnt MAKE you smoke---

Something amazing is, during the three years I didnt smoke, my husband
got cancer and died. Even the trauma of that, plus the sitting around
in the waiting room all day waiting for the ten minutes each hour I
could spend by his bed, did NOT make me smoke! In fact---his mother, a
smoker, was sitting there with me in that waiting room, smoking her head
off....and still didnt even think of smoking. Looking back on it...I
realize how strong my belief was that I was a NON smoker, period.

To think that, having gotten thru that horrible time without even
thinking of smoking.....only to succumb to an impulse on a lovely Spring
day, sharing a bottle of wine with a smoking friend...that the thought,
"Hey, gimmee one a those..." was all it took to send me back, all the
way, into SmokerVille......sheeeeesh.

LassChance

Start LC~5-16-05
202-193-165
(i usually weigh on Sunday)