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  1. "DZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    What's a good place to buy something like this -
    http://www.everythingfitness.com/st-ls-32.html

    I'd be using them mostly for one-arm pullups. Right now I'm using a
    self-made strap that's basically a ragged and also feminine-patterned
    piece of cloth. I don't really like either of these attributes. Plus
    that kind of fabric doesn't provide a good grip anyway.

    Please explain why you're using a strap for a one-armed pullup.

    Ironmind has them:

    http://www6.mailordercentral.com/ironmind/prodinfo.asp?number=1239

    and a shorter version here:

    http://www6.mailordercentral.com/ironmind/prodinfo.asp?number=1234

    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

  2. "DZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Steve Freides said:
    DZ said:

    What's a good place to buy something like this -
    http://www.everythingfitness.com/st-ls-32.html

    I'd be using them mostly for one-arm pullups. Right now I'm using a
    self-made strap that's basically a ragged and also
    feminine-patterned
    piece of cloth. I don't really like either of these attributes. Plus
    that kind of fabric doesn't provide a good grip anyway.

    Please explain why you're using a strap for a one-armed pullup.

    Ironmind has them:
    http://www6.mailordercentral.com/ironmind/prodinfo.asp?number=1239
    and a shorter version here:
    http://www6.mailordercentral.com/ironmind/prodinfo.asp?number=1234

    Thanks. The reason for straps is that otherwise it's too difficult for
    me. The way I learned the exercise is by increasing weight in the
    weighted pullups up to my bodyweight. But the grip for one-armed is
    not strong enough yet. I'll probably go with JMW's recommendation -
    http://tinyurl.com/9otjn

    The IronMind straps are _way_ cheaper and recommended by some of the
    strongest people out there - I can't see why you'd need anything more
    but hey, it's your nickel. 🙂

    You must have an usual collection of strengths and weaknesses to need
    straps for a one-armed pullup - I can hang one-armed from the bar all
    day long, and likewise perform static holds, partials, negatives, etc.,
    in the one-armed pullup, but I've never mastered the real deal because
    I'm not strong enough at the top and the bottom of the ROM yet. (I
    should add that I only focused on this once for a couple of months and I
    imagine, if I put my mind to it, I could get this but it's just not at
    the top of my list right now.)

    Have you tried any of the one-armed variations, e.g., holding one hand
    at the wrist, or using one hand plus fewer than five fingers in the
    other?

    At the risk of stating the obvious, maybe you ought to do some grip
    work - deadlifting comes to mind. If you can DL 2x bodyweight, I doubt
    you'll need straps for one-armed pullups, and the DL certainly won't
    hurt your lats when it comes to pullup strength.

    If you don't mind, a description of your training goals and your current
    training plan would be interesting to me. Not to mention your
    bodyweight, height, and a few best lift numbers.

    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

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    The only thing I don't like in the description is the "anti-bacterial
    and anti-microbial" feature. Gym germs never gave me any trouble. And
    I don't believe anything that can breed in the gym is pathogenic
    enough anyway - nothing can beat door knobs at work during flu
    season. But I have no idea if whatever they treat the straps with
    penetrates the skin. Maybe I'll just give them a good rinse.

    Also, if I were any more nuts than I am already, I'd also add that it
    seems a bit redundant to mention both microbes AND bacteria since
    bacteria are surely microbes 🙂

  3. "DZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Steve Freides said:

    You must have an usual collection of strengths and weaknesses to
    need straps for a one-armed pullup - I can hang one-armed from the
    bar all day long

    I have pretty good strength in wrist flexion - if you've seen my
    muscle-up clips you might agree 🙂 Last one I posted in December was
    12 muscle-ups, and I can do at least three more. As far as the grip -
    like you, I have no problem hanging with one hand from the bar. But
    the effort holding the grip while pulling up with one hand seems to
    lower my ability considerably.

    Quoted message said:

    Have you tried any of the one-armed variations, e.g., holding one
    hand at the wrist, or using one hand plus fewer than five fingers in
    the other?

    Holding hand at the wrist is very easy for me, but the fingers
    business sounds too kettlebellish 😉 and I don't think it's really
    helpful.

    I disagree. There's a nice article on the DD site about working up to a
    one-armed pullup - it includes all sorts of ways to get there, none of
    which involve either kettlebells or straps. I made a lot of progress
    using the "fingers" method in a fairly short time, and I can still crank
    out a couple of reps with one hand plus the index finger of the other
    hand any time. I stopped at the point where I was trying to work up to
    a few reps with one hand plus only the pinkie of the other hand.

    L:et me see if I can find a link - here you go:

    http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/232?kbid=1022

    As to the rest, thanks for posting it. 40 pullups at any bodyweight is
    impressive, and if you can do that, I'm frankly surprised you don't own
    the one-armed pullup already.

    Let us know how it goes with the strap(s).

    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If you don't mind, a description of your training goals and your
    current training plan would be interesting to me.

    I'm very non-competitive and my goals have little to do with lifting
    certain lb or getting bigger. I very much enjoy during- and
    post-workout feeling and that's good enough for me. Waking up next day
    slightly sore "is priceless" and I don't mean that sickle-and-hammer
    ass tattoo accident in Moscow jail. There are probably health benefits
    of exercising too but in itself likely minor and not affecting
    longevity (e.g. identical twins study discordant with regard
    exercising lifestyle). The one-arm deal is more of "why not" and I'd
    be perfectly happy without it. I actively try to focus on just today's
    workout and consider SERIOUS goals in terms of the progress
    detrimental, long term. Although it's Ok for beginners - whatever
    tricks you into going to the gym. IMO, "achieving the goal" mindset is
    a wrong motivation because of the inevitable decline with aging of
    whatever we accomplished. That's why many professional athletes become
    couch potatoes once the career is over. BTW, I look exactly the same
    way at scientific activities even though that's what I'm paid for.

    I'm doing whole body workouts 7 days a week, unless there is some
    social event or traveling etc. Squats, calves, muscle-ups, pullups,
    dips every day. I often superset muscle-ups with something involving
    legs because I don't notice any interference. Bench press almost every
    day. I add other things like rows and Arnold press about twice a
    week. I often superset dips and pullups, with one of them weighted, or
    both bodyweight. When both dips and pullups are bodyweight I keep rest
    between the sets to the minimum (just slow walk between dips and
    pullups bar) and stay far away from failure. I suppose calf exercises
    like raises are "isolation" and I sometimes do leg curls while resting
    between muscle-ups, but everything else is compound.

    I run 2 miles every other day too, which decreased from running 2-4
    miles every day I used to do previously.

    Quoted message said:

    Not to mention your bodyweight, height, and a few best lift numbers.

    If you don't want me to mention them why ask? Sorry, this is my dumb
    "immigrant facade" talk. Immigration authorities took all kinds of
    measurements already and even asked if drink alcohol, even socially
    (which I don't, even socially). I can't remember the details but I
    wouldn't be surprised if measurements of various body parts are
    recorded in some s3cr3t database, to aid in humane and well-intended
    scientific endeavors. I think my most outstanding "lift" was 40
    pullups at about 170 lb.

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