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Re: Update on my weight regain

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  1. Quoted message said:

    I could do what you suggested, also (eating less but in several
    meals). I figure, a week of eating once a day should not do any damage
    and it was relatively easy to do for a week. After all, all I had to
    lose was 2-3 lbs.

    Yes, anything will do for losing a few pounds, that's what crash diets were
    created for: people who need to shake off a few pounds quickly. The problem
    starts when obese people want to drop 50 or 100lbs on one of these plans,
    you can live on cabbage soup for a week but not for 6 months.

    Quoted message said:

    I have become relatively skeptical about all these claims about
    metabolism, lately.

    True. After all, it's a question of physics: if it takes a certain amount of
    energy for something (chemical reaction, motion, temperature change, etc.)
    to happen, how can it happen on a lot less energy? I've seen claims that
    your metabolism 'will drop down to 50%', this doesn't make any sense, after
    all if your body could be run on half the energy, why not do it all the
    time? If you could tweak your car to run on 50% of the fuel, would you tweak
    it back to use the full amount? There are energy-saving tips'n'tricks for
    drivers that will reduce fuel consumption by modest amounts, this must be
    the kind of thing that your body does when it goes into 'starvation' mode,
    i.e. trying to save bits of energy here & there, which is why people feel
    cold & tired when they don't eat.

    Our bodies must have been designed for irregular eating, otherwise why the
    limitless ability to store fat? If we were designed to eat 3 or 4 regular
    meals day in day out, we'd only be able to store a few pounds of fat for,
    say, a period of sickness during which we couldn't eat. If there's any BMR
    change, it's likely to be +/- 10% or thereabouts and only temporarily, it's
    not like if you starve yourself for a week you'll have a lower BMR forever.

  2. Polar Light said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have become relatively skeptical about all these claims about
    metabolism, lately.

    True. After all, it's a question of physics:

    But it's not. I find it hard to believe people don't think the body can
    adapt to survival by making choices of where to spend resources. Plus it
    has been shown to happen, so there's not much to argue about.

    Quoted message said:

    if it takes a certain amount of
    energy for something (chemical reaction, motion, temperature change, etc.)
    to happen, how can it happen on a lot less energy? I've seen claims that
    your metabolism 'will drop down to 50%', this doesn't make any sense, after
    all if your body could be run on half the energy, why not do it all the
    time?

    When my car is low on gass i drive slower. Why don't i drive slower all
    the time?

    Quoted message said:

    Our bodies must have been designed for irregular eating, otherwise why the
    limitless ability to store fat? If we were designed to eat 3 or 4 regular
    meals day in day out, we'd only be able to store a few pounds of fat for,
    say, a period of sickness during which we couldn't eat.

    But interestingly we don't store other things like essential fatty acids
    and proteins. But we store fat.


  3. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes, anything will do for losing a few pounds, that's what crash
    diets were created for: people who need to shake off a few pounds
    quickly. The problem starts when obese people want to drop 50 or
    100lbs on one of these plans, you can live on cabbage soup for a
    week but not for 6 months.

    Although I agree with you, what I did last week (and plan on repeating
    this week) was not a crash diet. I ate, probably, around 1,500 cals
    per day.

    I just mentioned it 'coz people say it would 'screw your metabolism'. Any
    diet or meal plan followed for only a short time is not likely to have
    long-term ill effects unless you have a medical condition.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've seen claims that your metabolism 'will drop down to 50%', this
    doesn't make any sense, after all if your body could be run on half
    the energy, why not do it all the time? If you could tweak your car
    to run on 50% of the fuel, would you tweak it back to use the full
    amount?

    Not so sure about cars. Um, compare two cars, a Toyota Corolla with a
    small engine, and a Corvette with a big V8. Both, really, do the same
    thing, which getting the driver from point A to point B. But the
    Corvette will burn a lot more fuel. Why do people choose Corvettes? I
    would not choose one, but they have their reasons.

    You're comparing two different cars, which is like two different bodies. I
    wouldn't have lost 3lbs in a week eating 1,500 cals/day 'coz I have a
    smaller body. But I was referring to the car you already have and being able
    to run it on a lot less fuel whilst getting the same performance from it, as
    it's supposed to happen with your body when your metabolism gets 'screwed up
    by dieting'.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Our bodies must have been designed for irregular eating, otherwise
    why the limitless ability to store fat? If we were designed to eat 3
    or 4 regular meals day in day out, we'd only be able to store a few
    pounds of fat for, say, a period of sickness during which we
    couldn't eat. If there's any BMR change, it's likely to be +/- 10%
    or thereabouts and only temporarily, it's not like if you starve
    yourself for a week you'll have a lower BMR forever.

    All true. I am not in the least concerned that one or two weeks of
    eating once a day (with regular eating on weekend) are going to ruin
    my metabolism.

    I don't think you can really 'ruin your metabolism' as such. It does slow
    down a little on low cal intake but you still lose weight, and so do
    anorexics who eat almost nothing. And it picks up as soon as you eat more
    cals, it doesn't stay 'lowered' forever. There are some people with
    metabolic issues but they quite rare and have other causes.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ignoramus8220 said:

    Not so sure about cars. Um, compare two cars, a Toyota Corolla with a
    small engine, and a Corvette with a big V8. Both, really, do the same
    thing, which getting the driver from point A to point B. But the
    Corvette will burn a lot more fuel. Why do people choose Corvettes? I
    would not choose one, but they have their reasons.

    Stick to discussing LC, you don't know much about cars. A Corolla and a
    Corvette "do the same thing" only for a very broad definition of "the
    same thing", and the reason one burns more fuel than another under
    different conditions has little to do with metabolism.

    KeS

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