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Re: Unsprung weight ?

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  1. Retro Bob said:

    Rider weight vs. bike weight ?

    OK... I'm sure this has been hacked around here quite a bit already,
    but I'm new here. Let me start with what I know: In automobile
    suspension design, you attempt to limit the "unsprung" weight
    because it's uncontrollable. The sprung weight you can control
    and tune.

    But, I'm having trouble applying this concept to biking. It seems
    to me like the entire bike/rider on a road bike is unsprung.
    Therefore, it does not matter if the weight is on the rider or
    the bike. Therefore, with the exception of those of use in perfect
    condition (me, of course) you are just as wise to cut your own
    weight by a pound as you are to spend $500+ cutting the bike's
    weight by the same amount. Of course, the rider is movable, so in
    a sense it's "sprung" weight".

    But, practical experience seems to challenge this. I know that getting
    on a light bike makes me go much faster... and if doesn't seem to be
    the 5 lbs difference... or is it ? Is it just an illusion ? If I
    hung a 5lb weight on me and then got on a light bike would I feel
    the same as the heavy bike (mechanical smoothness of the more
    expensive bike aside) ?

    Heavy rider, light bike is more comfortable than light rider, heavy
    bike. The rider can be considered as "suspended" because the tendons in
    his/her legs are highly efficient shock absorbers. If he/she gets out
    of the saddle, that is. If the rider sits like a sack of potatoes,
    there's no advantage.

  2. Zog The Undeniable said:

    Heavy rider, light bike is more comfortable than light rider, heavy
    bike. The rider can be considered as "suspended" because the tendons in
    his/her legs are highly efficient shock absorbers. If he/she gets out
    of the saddle, that is. If the rider sits like a sack of potatoes,
    there's no advantage.

    Which is why nobody rides like that over spots so rough the
    quality of the suspension becomes the key factor in control.

    I'd like also to point out that the human frame is a far
    more active and intelligent suspension than anything ever
    installed on a mechanical vehicle, so the question of
    sprung and unsprung changes significantly.

    --Blair
    "But I'm not saying which way."

  3. Zog The Undeniable said:

    ...If the rider sits like a sack of potatoes, there's no advantage.

    Hey, I resemble that remark! 😉

    --
    Tom Sherman - Bike/Trike Potato

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