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Re: The Search For Truth

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    Subject: Re: The Search For Truth
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 7/2/2003 9:42 PM Central Standard Time
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    (Jan) said:
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    Why won't you show the WHOLE sentence, Jan?

    Ding, Ding Ding.

    The Anatoxin-a Primer implied that Super Blue Green Algae from Klamath Lake,
    produced by Cell Tech, contains anatoxin-a (a neurotoxin I characterized as
    addictive), and that Cell Tech deliberately avoids testing for this toxin
    because anatoxin-a is responsible for the effects reported by SBGA users.

    What are the words in the "Anatoxin-a Primer"?

    Words is Anatoxin-a Primer????????????

    The above quote is

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    saying that this primer implied something. I see no claim by anyone in
    that quote that anyone "deliberately" said anything, so the original
    words are necessary to see the basis of the inference. Quoting a
    comment about implications is not quoting the actual words of the
    implications.

    But you know that.

    LOL.

    Poor Poor Peter.

    Covering for his buddy, and can't see.

    Thanks once again for proving the good ole boy and girl club syndrome.

    Retraction in *Mark's words*.

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    The Anatoxin-a Primer implied that Super Blue Green Algae from Klamath Lake,
    produced by Cell Tech, contains anatoxin-a (a neurotoxin I characterized as
    addictive), and that

    ****Cell Tech deliberately avoids testing for this toxin****

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    because anatoxin-a is responsible for the effects reported by SBGA users.

    You are as blind as Peter Moran.

    http://www.abika.com/Reports/Samples/Verifycollegedegree.htm

    There is one final word I want to call your attention to: Lies. People lie.
    People in power lie BIG. This sounds harsh, but it is real. People who lie
    believe they are justified in lying, otherwise lying would be very hard. They
    see lying as part of what they have to do to accomplish some worthy purpose.
    Most of us, with our limited ambitions, are comfortable only with small lies,
    but those who have the most sweeping and wonderful plans have learned to use
    the Big Lie.

    I am very concerned about the times we are living in because people are more
    willing to listen to lies than to learn the truth. The biggest lies today, are
    committed in the name of the noblest purpose: "national security". The problem
    is that lies destroy human community and the prospect of true democracy. Lies
    may protect us, but they destroy us at the core leaving nothing worth
    protecting.

    John Stockwell, a high ranking CIA officer who dropped out and went public
    because of his conscience, says 1/3 of the people working under him were
    "propagandists." They spent time fabricating outright lies to feed into the
    U.S. press and the briefings of political figures who would be quoted in the
    press. Most of us look for biases in the news, but we generally don't expect
    outright lies.

    Truth involves not only a search but also a struggle. What can I say? Is there
    hope? I hope so! I intend to maintain my hope and to act on it. I urge you to
    help bring our hope to fulfillment by not being seduced by laziness or lies,
    but by engaging in the struggle for truth.

    http://www.stanfordalumni.org/news/magazine/1997/marapr/lsjournal/bookrevi
    ew1.html

    " . . . having made lying an accepted government function, our government is
    now overrun with liars; having made our public posture heartless as a matter of
    policy, we are now unable to bring our heart to public affairs; having made
    killing a measure of our national efforts, we watch helplessly as killing has
    become one of our principal cultural currencies; having failed to look our
    transgressions straight in the face, we have not been straight with one another
    since; having refused to live up to our values, we are now increasingly without
    values; having made language into hype, we now have nothing believable to say."

    http://www.human3.com/link7.htm

    Indeed, adopting a "zero tolerance" policy for the self with regard to lying is
    one of the first stages of acquiring Human 3 Consciousness. Your mind is in
    control as a Human 3. It is the boss of your instinct (your emotions and
    feelings), so whatever motive you may "sense" for telling a lie must also be
    known to be "rational" in order to get approved by your brain for outward
    behavior, and there are very few circumstances wherein lying is rational.

    ====
    http://www.islamicedfoundation.com/articles/article2.htm

    Even in America, "the land of prosperity and goodness," poll after poll shows
    that the average person thinks lying is okay

    http://www.islamicedfoundation.com/articles/article2.htm

    1-INTRODUCTION

    It is written, THESE SIX THINGS DOTH THE LORD HATE; YEA, SEVEN ARE AN
    ABOMINATION UNTO HIM. Three of these are as follows: A LYING TONGUE... A FALSE
    WITNESS THAT SPEAKETH LIES, AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN-Pv
    6:16,17,19.

    The Bible tells us, NONE CALLETH FOR JUSTICE, NOR ANY PLEADETH FOR TRUTH: THEY
    TRUST IN VANITY, AND SPEAK LIES; THEY CONCEIVE MISCHIEF, AND BRING FORTH
    INIQUITY-Isa 59:4.

    Are these Scriptures for today?

    The Bible tells us, THEY BEND THEIR TONGUES LIKE THEIR BOW FOR LIES: BUT THEY
    ARE NOT VALIANT FOR THE TRUTH UPON THE EARTH-Jere 9:3; AND WILL NOT SPEAK THE
    TRUTH-Jere 9:5.

    Yet, the Scripture tells us, LYING LIPS ARE ABOMINATION TO THE LORD-Pv 12:22;
    and A RIGHTEOUS MAN HATETH LYING-Pv 13:5.

    One of the biggest problems people have is honesty. Now, very few of us think
    of ourselves as dishonest. Very few of us would consider ourselves "a liar,"
    yet we all know that, at one time or another, we have lied.

    One of the problems we may have, regarding lying, is not having an honest
    enough heart to admit the truth. We may tell a little "white lie," but refuse
    to admit it was a lie. For instance, you may give your word you will be at a
    certain place at a certain time, but something comes up, and you do not keep
    your word, yet refuse to admit it was a lie. Perhaps, you may jokingly say,
    "Oh, yes, I’ll be there at three o’clock," but you aren’t. It was a lie.

    Perhaps, we are not prepared to admit what a lie really is. A lie is an
    abominable thing that God hates. Let’s put it in perspective. To say
    something in the form of a promise or a commitment and then not keep your word
    (regardless of the reason) is to lie, and God hates it. Perhaps, you say you
    will go to a certain church on a certain day, yet you do not go.

    This is a form of lying, and God hates it. If you say, "I’m going to the
    store at three p.m.," and you do not, it is a lie, and God hates it. If you
    say you will have a Bible study at four p.m. on Tuesday, but then you change
    your mind, you have lied, and God hates it. If you tell a person anything that
    is part true and part dishonest, it is a lie, and God hates it. If you say,
    someone did this or that, and it is not true, then you have told a lie about
    that person, and God hates it. If you tell your neighbor you stopped by to get
    some sugar, when the real reason you stopped by was to see her baby, you have
    just lied, and God hates it. If you say you will be at someone’s house at two
    p.m., but you have a flat tire, it is still a lie, and God hates it. What you
    should have said was, "Lord willing, I'll be there at 2 pm, or "I'll try to be
    there at 2 pm." As one might say, tell the whole truth and nothing but the
    truth.

    8-SATAN CAUSES US TO LIE

    Who causes us to lie? It is Satan. Satan works in our emotions and feelings.
    Perhaps, if we did not lie, we would embarrass ourselves, so we lie. We may try
    to cover the truth. We just cannot seem to tell the whole truth. It is written,
    Acts 5:3-BUT PETER SAID, ANANIAS, WHY HATH SATAN FILLED THINE HEART TO LIE?

    Satan is the father of lies. Satan was a liar from the beginning. Satan is a
    deceiver, and he deceiveth the whole world. Again, we are told in Col 3:9-LIE
    NOT ONE TO ANOTHER, SEEING THAT YE HAVE PUT OFF THE OLD MAN WITH HIS DEEDS.

    Once you are born-again, you are to put off the old man (Satan’s ways) and
    follow the path of complete truthfulness and honesty. If you do not, you are
    lying to (or deceiving) yourself. 1 Jn 2:4-HE THAT SAITH, I KNOW HIM, AND
    KEEPETH NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS, IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.

    Understand that, 1 Jn 2:21-NO LIE IS OF THE TRUTH. No lie that you ever tell
    is of God. No matter what the excuse, no matter what the reason, no matter if
    your house burns down—if you make a promise, keep it. No lie is of God. Watch
    your words. Be careful what you say, lest you misspeak and lie. Jesus never
    lied. Satan is the father of lies. Whom do you follow? "Little white lies" are
    big, abominable lies that take you to the lake of fire.

    Jan

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