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Re: Squeezing out the paper-boy

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  1. Peter Signorini said:

    A tale of conspiracy against teenage cyclists.

    I think this is less of an issue with the media, government laws etc, rather
    than that particular Newsagency squeezing more performance out of their
    employees for the same amount of money.

    It's all open to negotiation.

    If you're doing significantly more work, and incure more cost before the job
    changes (petrol, vehicle wear and tear etc) ask for more money.

    If they don't give it to you, you change jobs. This is the way it's always
    been, is, and will probably always will be.

    If someone else wants to do the job _at_a_loss_, that's fine with me, as
    long as I don't have to do it. (and I don't have to do it, and neither do you).

    The fact that your son is a minor, and they're probably trying more with him
    than with an adult (because they can get away with it) is largely irrelevant.
    Your son is still very much allowed to negotiate an increase in pay to hire
    you and your services (car and driver) to do the job required of him by his
    employer.
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  2. John Tserkezis said:


    It's all open to negotiation.

    If you're doing significantly more work, and incure more cost before
    the job changes (petrol, vehicle wear and tear etc) ask for more money.

    If they don't give it to you, you change jobs. This is the way it's
    always been, is, and will probably always will be.

    I agree, John.

    If the costs of getting the job done rises, then the pay
    must also rise to compensate. The employee should not be
    paying out of their own pockets to do their job.

    --
    Buck

  3. Having had two kids go the newspaper boy (and girl) route I am surprised at what a lousy deal your youngster seems to be getting Peter. Most places provide the bikes (with crates, etc) as far as I know... I insisted on extra reflective gear (such as vests) but the newsagent was pretty careful about getting kids kitted out and with a reasonable amount of compensation for the time. They used to, for example, get paid extra on the weekends when they had to do the double trip, and if running late the newsagent owner would drive them.

    That said, most (all) of the newsagents get the extra bits of The Age delivered to them on Saturday. Some of the agencies even deliver these Saturday avo. There is more flexibility than the newsagent is letting on I suspect.

    I hope that things work out, the laws surrounding employment of children are, as you know, pretty dodgy. Perhaps there is a more reasonable agency nearby who would welcome him?

    best of luck,
    Ali

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