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  1. You had two broad points, our eye configuration and predation and our
    physical makeup to digest meat as a primary food source based on human
    phenotypes. My remarks countered each of those. What part of your
    message did I miss countering? To have been countered is not to have been
    misrepresented.

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    keep on misrepresenting what I say, that'll win your argument every
    time.

    TC

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    Oh dear, where to begin, so much [censored]. Little of the blow is valid.


    To

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    mention just one item, we have eyes in frount because we inherited it


    from

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    our tree dwelling primate ancestores where travel mainly in trees


    required

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    good depth perception, or you might fall and break your neck in


    pursuit of

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    the fruits that made up the bulk of the diet. It is thought humans


    first

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    were scavengers, not predators, which came later in those areas where


    it

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    could be sustained to any degree. Some real predators have eyes in


    other

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    configurations,ex. wolves. Our teeth and digestation system is in


    the

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    middle of true predators and herbavors. The latter are the grass


    eaters

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    like cows. We are not on the ends of the ranges, we are in the


    middle

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    between grass eaters and meat only eaters and our bodies reflect that
    fact. You have been reading too much of the info from the meataphile
    nutrition theology sources. The veggie alone folk have their


    oppisite

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    theology using the very same info and arguments but in reverse, both


    are

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    wrong for the same reasons.

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    Absolute garbage. Physiologically we are carnivorous omnivores.

    We have cutting and tearing teeth similar to all predators as


    opposed

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    to crushing teeth like cows.

    We have both eyes in front giving us excellent depth perception for
    hunting as opposed to grass eaters that have large eyes on the side


    of

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    their heads and excellent peripheral vision to see predators.

    Our GI tract is short like other predators and meat eaters as


    opposed

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    to the long GI tracts and multiple stomachs.

    These are only a few of the many physiological traits that brand us


    as

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    a primarily carnivorous animal.

    TC

  2. We'll agree to disagree. Correcting your mis-interpretation of science
    and other peoples discussions is not something I hanker to do on a
    daily basis, which is exactly what I end up having to do anytime you
    get in the discussion. Figure it out yourself.

    TC

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    You had two broad points, our eye configuration and predation and our

    Quoted message said:

    physical makeup to digest meat as a primary food source based on


    human

    Quoted message said:

    phenotypes. My remarks countered each of those. What part of your
    message did I miss countering? To have been countered is not to have


    been

    Quoted message said:

    misrepresented.

    Quoted message said:

    keep on misrepresenting what I say, that'll win your argument every
    time.

    TC

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    Oh dear, where to begin, so much [censored]. Little of the blow is


    valid.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    To

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    mention just one item, we have eyes in frount because we inherited


    it

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    Quoted message said:

    from

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    our tree dwelling primate ancestores where travel mainly in trees


    required

    Quoted message said:

    good depth perception, or you might fall and break your neck in


    pursuit of

    Quoted message said:

    the fruits that made up the bulk of the diet. It is thought humans


    first

    Quoted message said:

    were scavengers, not predators, which came later in those areas


    where

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    Quoted message said:

    it

    Quoted message said:

    could be sustained to any degree. Some real predators have eyes


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    other

    Quoted message said:

    configurations,ex. wolves. Our teeth and digestation system is in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    middle of true predators and herbavors. The latter are the grass


    eaters

    Quoted message said:

    like cows. We are not on the ends of the ranges, we are in the


    middle

    Quoted message said:

    between grass eaters and meat only eaters and our bodies reflect


    that

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    Quoted message said:
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    fact. You have been reading too much of the info from the


    meataphile

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nutrition theology sources. The veggie alone folk have their


    oppisite

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    theology using the very same info and arguments but in reverse,


    both

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    Quoted message said:

    are

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    wrong for the same reasons.

    >Absolute garbage. Physiologically we are carnivorous omnivores.
    >
    >We have cutting and tearing teeth similar to all predators as


    opposed

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    >to crushing teeth like cows.
    >
    >We have both eyes in front giving us excellent depth perception


    for

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    >hunting as opposed to grass eaters that have large eyes on the


    side

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    of

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    >their heads and excellent peripheral vision to see predators.
    >
    >Our GI tract is short like other predators and meat eaters as


    opposed

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    >to the long GI tracts and multiple stomachs.
    >
    >These are only a few of the many physiological traits that brand


    us

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    as

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    >a primarily carnivorous animal.
    >
    >TC

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    >Absolute garbage. Physiologically we are carnivorous omnivores.

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    >We have cutting and tearing teeth similar to all predators as

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    >opposed to crushing teeth like cows.

    Carnivores have teeth like our back molars? Carnivores' jaws can roll
    from side to side... their jaws don't just go up and down?

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    >We have both eyes in front giving us excellent depth perception

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    >for hunting as opposed to grass eaters that have large eyes on


    the

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    >side of their heads and excellent peripheral vision to see


    predators.

    Okay, I know some Chimps hunt, kill and eat other monkeys, but are
    monkeys and apes considered predators?

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    >Our GI tract is short like other predators and meat eaters as

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    >opposed to the long GI tracts and multiple stomachs.

    Granted we don't have multiple stomachs, though sometimes I feel like I
    do after completing a half marathon, but I don't think our GI tract is
    as short as a true carnivores'.

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    >These are only a few of the many physiological traits that brand

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    >us as a primarily carnivorous animal.

    I think the Toad nailed it down. We're neither primarily vegetarian
    nor carnivore. What we are is very adaptable opportunists.

    Patrick

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    >Absolute garbage. Physiologically we are carnivorous omnivores.

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    >We have cutting and tearing teeth similar to all predators as

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    >opposed to crushing teeth like cows.

    Carnivores have teeth like our back molars? Carnivores' jaws can roll
    from side to side... their jaws don't just go up and down?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    >We have both eyes in front giving us excellent depth perception

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >for hunting as opposed to grass eaters that have large eyes on


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >side of their heads and excellent peripheral vision to see


    predators.

    Okay, I know some Chimps hunt, kill and eat other monkeys, but are
    monkeys and apes considered predators?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >Our GI tract is short like other predators and meat eaters as

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >opposed to the long GI tracts and multiple stomachs.

    Granted we don't have multiple stomachs, though sometimes I feel like I
    do after completing a half marathon, but I don't think our GI tract is
    as short as a true carnivores'.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >These are only a few of the many physiological traits that brand

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >us as a primarily carnivorous animal.

    I think the Toad nailed it down. We're neither primarily vegetarian
    nor carnivore. What we are is very adaptable opportunists.

    Patrick

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