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Re: Soy Neurotoxicity?

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  1. Ian Goddard said:


    FINDINGS MAY SUPPORT SOY-DEMENTIA CORRELATION IN MALES


    Big problem Tofu contains other things besides soy.
    Frequently aluminium sulphate or alum is illicitly included in the
    coagulant used to gell the soy. The addition of aluminium helps to
    give the tofu a much firmer texture.

    Surely this must complicate any statistical research demonstrating
    neurotoxicity of Tofu products.

    Bob M

  2. (R Molony) said:
    Ian Goddard said:


    FINDINGS MAY SUPPORT SOY-DEMENTIA CORRELATION IN MALES


    Big problem Tofu contains other things besides soy.
    Frequently aluminium sulphate or alum is illicitly included in the
    coagulant used to gell the soy. The addition of aluminium helps to
    give the tofu a much firmer texture.

    Surely this must complicate any statistical research demonstrating
    neurotoxicity of Tofu products.

    IAN: I doubt it. William Harris explored the question of
    aluminum's possible role in the findings of White et al:
    http://www.vegsource.com/harris/brain_aging.htm

    He had 16 soy products assayed for Al. Sure enough tofu
    was on the high side, at 15.99 parts per million. However,
    in the big picture that is not very remarkable. That's
    16 micrograms of Al per gram of tofu. Estimates of daily
    dietary Al intake range from 1.53 to 160 mg per person:
    http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v12je04.htm

    So you'd have to eat about 2.2 lbs tofu/day to match the
    high-end estimate of normal daily Al intake. Given that
    White et al defined the high-end of tofu intake as two
    or more servings per week, that would be below 2 lbs/day!
    And most likely "servings" among this Japanese American
    cohort probably means meals wherein tofu is a component.

    That's not to say Al may not play a role in neurological
    degeneration. I've posted a lot of evidence that it does:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=gq8havshkhetd6s78ctbgvc8iev0gtma1n%404ax.com

    But given that there are many foods with as much or more
    Al content than tofu as measured by Harris, and that
    White et al tested ALL foods reported by the cohort and
    only tofu produced a loud & clear statistically significant
    correlation to indicators of cognitive impairment and brain
    atrophy, it stands to reason Al not producing that signal.

    http://IanGoddard.net/journal.htm

    "To lengthen thy life, lessen thy meals." Ben Franklin

    Ongoing CR-monkey-study update: "In the monkeys...those on
    reduced feeding since the study started are dying at a rate
    that is about half that of the monkeys receiving a full food
    ration." Associated Press: Eating less may extend human life.
    August 1, 2002 : http://www.msnbc.com/news/788746.asp?0si=-

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