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Re Saturated and polyunsaturated fat...

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  1. Larry, Larry, Larry...

    How many times do I have to tell you? These are epidemiological studies, meaning statistical. That
    means if they don't get their facts straight to begin with, the study is often worthless. These
    people think "saturated fat" is lard, for example, when lard, even according to the USDA database,
    is less than 40% SFAs. And you should know that SFAs don't get metabolized like unsaturated fatty
    acids, so they have little biochemical activity in comparison. It would be an Alice in Wonderland
    world if SFAs did what some of these idiots are claiming - they just don't know their science. And
    it's basic, textbook stuff. SFAs have different physiological effects even amongst themselves,
    though this is minimal compared to the what PUFAs do, and diets are complex. Only a very controlled
    experiment, perhaps on monkeys, would provide some sort of reasonable epidemiological study, though
    if the biochemistry is well known, as it is (do your own www.pubmed.com search), I don't see the
    point. Would you like me to post this same point every time another one of these moronic studies get
    published? What is the point? Go eat your PUFAs Larry, eat plenty of them. You are one person I
    recommend consuming a large bottle of flax or fish oil each day.

    LH posted:

    " "mfg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On October 4 the British Medical Journal published a study of diet and stroke by Walter Willett's
    group on Harvard. Their conclusion was that saturated and polyunsaturated fats are not associated
    with the risk of getting a stroke.

    And nickwit has not a word to say on this?

    Pity.

    Lar"

  2. Once upon a time, our fellow nick rambled on about "Re Saturated and polyunsaturated fat...." Our
    champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

    Quoted message said:

    It would be an Alice in Wonderland world if SFAs did what some of these idiots are claiming

    Yes, nick! Alice in Wonderland is what I think of when I read the fairy tales that you have been
    posting on this ng.

    Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

  3. "nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Larry, Larry, Larry...

    How many times do I have to tell you? These are epidemiological studies, meaning statistical. That
    means if they don't get their facts straight to begin with, the study is often worthless. These
    people think "saturated fat" is lard, for example, when lard, even according to the USDA database,
    is less than 40% SFAs.

    I left the link intact so you could actually refer to it, nickwit.

    bmj.bmjjournals.com777

    Are you really incompetent, or do you just act the part?

    The study is available in full text, and all the parameters are clearly defined. Your
    generalizations, above, are false.

    "We obtained values for the amounts of nutrients, including specific types of fat, in foods from the
    Harvard University food composition database, which was updated over time with data from the US
    Department of Agriculture, manufacturers, and published reports."

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