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Re: RTL: Ranking for non-geared teams

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  1. tholub said:
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    - The rider is more important than the unicycle.
    - Everyone is fastest on the setup they're most comfortable with
    - It's possible to go up hills (up to a certain grade) faster on a

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    geared uni than a fixed 36er, at a cost of greater energy
    expenditure


    - Geared unis are faster downhill and require less energy than a

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    fixed 36er


    - Did I mention, the rider is more important than the unicycle?

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    I've got to agree with all of those points. Yes, geared hubs give you a
    mechanical advantage, but they don't make your legs 1.5 times a big.

    I found myself catching the only gunis that we were riding with on
    long, gentle uphills and downhills. They'd take off on the flats and
    most steep hills (up or down).

    I hope that if RTL happens again, there will be separate categories for
    geared and fixed unicycles, since there is a significant mechanical
    advantage at a price that not everyone can afford.

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  2. I disagree with this. Had this been a bike race, pretty much every bike
    would be more expensive than a GUni. If you wanna race, you got to show
    up with equipment that will play to your abilities. Adding $1k to the
    cost of your cycle isn't really a hardship if you're serious about
    racing. Unless you live in a third world country, any teenager with a
    summer job can save up that much money. If you're NOT WILLING to spend
    that much money, you can still show up and race competitively, just not
    expect to win.

    Not only that, but many ungeared riders were competitive with geared
    riders. If you had taken away NZuni's only geared cycle, they may have
    still taken 2nd place. There were many GUnis in the middle of the pack,
    and one or two towards the back of the pack.

    For many, travel, accomodations, car rental...etc were as expensive or
    more expensive than their unicycles.

    Eroick said:


    I hope that if RTL happens again, there will be separate categories for
    geared and fixed unicycles, since there is a significant mechanical
    advantage at a price that not everyone can afford.

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  3. mscalisi said:


    For many, travel, accomodations, car rental...etc were as expensive or
    more expensive than their unicycles.

    Agreed. The difference in cost between my Schlumpf hub and a decent
    fixed hub is a relatively small percentage of the total cost that I
    spent on everything else. I didn't buy the guni specifically for RTL,
    but if I didn't already have it, I'm sure I could have justified the
    cost to give myself a fighting chance in the race.

    STM

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  4. mscalisi said:

    Not only that, but many ungeared riders were competitive with geared
    riders. If you had taken away NZuni's only geared cycle, they may have
    still taken 2nd place. There were many GUnis in the middle of the pack,
    and one or two towards the back of the pack.

    For many, travel, accomodations, car rental...etc were as expensive or
    more expensive than their unicycles.

    Totally agree. I lucked out and got some unexpected well paid work in
    march that kept my cash flow positive, paid for flights etc. But even
    so it cost a lot getting there and stuff. I think overall including
    food car hire etc i probably spent 800 quid 1600 dollars.

    Separate categories are silly, they only make sense if you separate by
    what actual gearing you have as geared 36 is v different to 29. And
    what about brakes - they can give a speed advantage and reduce effort a
    lot. Should they have another category? If the biggest race ever only
    has 35 teams it's silly to split them up based on how pimpy their
    unicycle is.

    Joe

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  5. joemarshall said:

    Totally agree. I lucked out and got some unexpected well paid work in
    march that kept my cash flow positive, paid for flights etc. But even
    so it cost a lot getting there and stuff. I think overall including
    food car hire etc i probably spent 800 quid 1600 dollars.

    Separate categories are silly, they only make sense if you separate by
    what actual gearing you have as geared 36 is v different to 29. And
    what about brakes - they can give a speed advantage and reduce effort a
    lot. Should they have another category? If the biggest race ever only
    has 35 teams it's silly to split them up based on how pimpy their
    unicycle is.

    Joe

    If it were to have any separate categories, it would have to be a
    significant. Having a category with brakes/no brakes is just silly.
    Having Geared and Ungeared category less so I think. Also, male/female
    categories would make sense if there were enough female teams too.

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