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Re: Research indicates fructose may be a problem.

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  1. Rich Murray said:


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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1264
    fructose in rats increases uric acid, obesity, insulin resistance,
    endothelial damage -- RJ Johnson et al, U. Florida: Murray 2005.12.07

    http://www2.netdoctor.co.uk/news/index.asp?y=2005&m=12&d=7&id=121229

    Sugar 'speeds up obesity'

    Sugar could be making people fatter more quickly,
    US scientists have said.

    A research team at University of Florida said fructose -- found
    in common sugar, processed foods and even fruit -- can render
    the body's metabolism unable to function effectively, causing
    faster-than-usual weight gain.

    The scientists say the findings are significant as many modern,
    processed foods are packed with high levels of fructose.

    In tests on rats, scientists found that fructose tricked the animals
    into thinking they were hungrier than they really were, causing them
    to eat more and pile on the pounds.

    Consuming anything sweet (including fructose) increases appetite.

    This is not a problem for those using the 2PD-OMER Approach:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    "If you find honey, eat just enough -- too much of it and you will
    vomit." (Proverbs 25:16)

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat today (12/08/05) from 6 to
    7 pm EST:

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
    the LORD has reshaped me:

    http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

    In Christ's love always,

    Andrew
    http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk

  2. December 8, 2005 Thanks, Andrew. I appreciate your detailed, helpful,
    frankly Spirit-based sharings.

    I gave this advice to a lady who was concerned about a multiple sclerosis
    diagnosis:

    http://www.vrg.org/ The Vegetarian Resource Group [email hidden]

    http://www.vegsource.com extensive vegan information

    http://www.drmcdougall.com practical, delicious healthy diet guidance

    http://www.vegsource.com/articles/kradjian_milk.htm
    Robert Kradjian MD Discusses Milk

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/971
    Joel Fuhrman critique of Atkins diet in "Eat To Live":
    Murray 2003.03.01 rmforall

    http://www.hyp.ac.uk/cash/index.htm
    Consensus Action on Salt and Health

    What Rich Murray eats:

    Avoid all products with aspartame and MSG.
    Substitute stevia (at health food stores).

    Gradually reduce alcohol, caffeine (coffee, cocoa, and teas), meat, fish,
    eggs, milk, butter, and cheese, hydrogenated oils, trans fats,
    white bread, food additives and colors, sugar, high fructose corn syrup,
    fluoride, city water, salt and sodium ( < 1,000 mg daily ).

    Enjoy organic rice, potatoes, vegetables, fruits, beans, garlic, tumeric,
    with modest use of soy products, walnuts, almonds, flax seeds,
    almond butter, sprouted grain breads, flax seed and olive oils,
    chili sauce, 4-8 1,000 mg fish oil capsules,
    and fill your jugs with deionized or distilled water.
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    Medical: limit medicines to the absolutely essential, and find helpers who
    are qualified, reputable, open-minded, happy, excellent listeners,
    knowledgeable about diet and health -- females are often the best

    Exercise: ordinary walking, swimming, movement classes, swimming, moderate
    workouts at gyms

    Reduce stress: relationships, employment, obligations, financial

    Fun: friends, movies, music, dancing, easy travel, vacations, reading, art

    Supportive networks: family, social, spiritual, support groups

    get plenty of sleep

    Sweats from hot tubs and saunas

    Massage

    Consider other toxins:

    mercury from dental amalgams and fish

    carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, and formaldehyde from faulty stoves and
    furnaces, wood, coal, and natural gas, or local vehicle traffic
    [ My wife and I replaced our three 50-year old gas furnaces with a hot water
    baseboard system with its furnace in the garage, venting through its own
    chimney. ]

    household pesticides

    fluoride in drinking water or toothpaste

    toxic molds in home or work space

    formaldehyde from dark wines and liquors, tobacco and wood smoke,
    degradation of pectins in fruits and vegetables by bacteria in the colon,
    new furniture, drapes, carpets, particleboard,
    new mobile homes and buildings, cleansers, personal care products

    Dr. John McDougall gives good advice on using an elimination diet
    for a few weeks to see if you have such common food allergies as milk, egg,
    wheat, soy, corn, peanut, nuts

    make sure you don't have untreated dental infections

    check for candida yeast infections

    check for allergies to plants, dust mites, and so on

    My wife has benefited enormously, treating her diabetic neuropathy with 48
    sessions of hyperbaric oxygen therapy -- about $ 250 each.

    I hope this helps you consider many safe options.

    You may call me or email me.

    In mutual service, Rich

    Rich Murray, MA Room For All [email hidden]
    505-501-2298 1943 Otowi Road Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages
    group with 149 members, 1,264 posts in a public, searchable archive
    http://RoomForAll.blogspot.com http://AspartameNM.blogspot.com

    Dark wines and liquors, as well as aspartame, provide
    similar levels of methanol, above 100 mg daily, for
    long-term heavy users, 2 L daily, about 6 cans.

    Methanol is inevitably largely turned into formaldehyde,
    and thence largely into formic acid.
    It is the major cause of the dreaded symptoms of "next
    morning" hangover.

    Fully 11% of aspartame is methanol -- 1,120 mg aspartame
    in 2 L diet soda, almost six 12-oz cans, gives 123 mg
    methanol (wood alcohol). If 30% of the methanol is turned
    into formaldehyde, the amount of formaldehyde, 37 mg,
    is 18.5 times the USA EPA limit for daily formaldehyde in
    drinking water, 2.0 mg in 2 L average daily drinking water,

    185 times the New Jersey limit,
    615 times the California and Maine limits.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1264
    fructose in rats increases uric acid, obesity, insulin resistance,
    endothelial damage -- RJ Johnson et al, U. Florida: Murray 2005.12.07
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    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Rich Murray wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    This is not a problem for those using the 2PD-OMER Approach:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    "If you find honey, eat just enough -- too much of it and you will
    vomit." (Proverbs 25:16)

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat today (12/08/05) from 6 to
    7 pm EST:

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
    the LORD has reshaped me:

    http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

    In Christ's love always,

    Andrew
    http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk


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  3. Steve Marcus said:


    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Consuming anything sweet (including fructose) increases appetite.

    This is not a problem for those using the 2PD-OMER Approach:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    "If you find honey, eat just enough -- too much of it and you will
    vomit." (Proverbs 25:16)

    Internal contradiction. If consuming anything sweet increases appetite,
    consuming *any* honey will increase appetite.

    Pastorio

    Please cite the portion of the post to which you responded in which it is
    stated that "consuming any honey" will not increase appetite:

    1) Chung's post simply states that consuming sweets isn't a problem ... he
    doesn't say that appetite isn't increased. Certainly those starting out on
    any diet encounter the problem of having their appetite increased when they
    eat meals of a portion size that is significantly decreased from their
    usual portion size. That doesn't mean that they can't successfully resist
    eating more.

    2) The quotation from Proverbs certainly says nothing about appetite being
    increased.

    If you are going to continue being an [censored] and clogging up newsgoups with
    useless posts intended to harrass Chung for no reason other than your own
    amusement, at least try to post accurately.

    Steve

    Truthfully would be even better :-))

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/15/05) from 6 to 7 pm
    EST:

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
    the LORD has reshaped me:

    http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

    In Christ's love always,

    Andrew
    http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk

  4. Jim-Poncin said:


    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Andrew B. Chung said:

    Consuming anything sweet (including fructose) increases appetite.

    This is not a problem for those using the 2PD-OMER Approach:

    http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

    "If you find honey, eat just enough -- too much of it and you will
    vomit." (Proverbs 25:16)

    Internal contradiction. If consuming anything sweet increases appetite,
    consuming *any* honey will increase appetite.

    Pastorio

    How about 2 pounds of honey?

    "you will vomit"

    Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
    like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
    this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/15/05) from 6 to 7 pm
    EST:

    http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

    For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
    the LORD has reshaped me:

    http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

    In Christ's love always,

    Andrew
    http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk

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