Re: Red meat causing diabetes?

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:16:39 -0500, jbuch <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

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Results: During 326,876 person-years of follow-up, we documented 1,558
incident cases of type 2 diabetes. After adjusting for age, BMI, total
energy intake, exercise, alcohol intake, cigarette smoking, and family
history of diabetes, we found positive associations between intakes of
red meat and processed meat and risk of type 2 diabetes.

In the book "The Fat Myth", the author discusses the success of the
French way of eating.... high fat included.

The same book discusses the French very low consumption of red meat in
the traditional diet. The author goes on to state that French diet
specialists claim to have long known that red meat consumption is not
good for you, and hence the low inclusion in the traditional French diet.

The Mediterranian diet is also low on red meat. I believe I read that
diabetes is low on this diet as well.

So, there could be something to it.

Fish and Poultry beware.... we are coming after you with a plate, knife
and fork.

JIm

Hi Jim

Apparently no-one had mentioned this to the good restauranteurs of
Beaune, Dijon etc when I was there last year enjoying the local
speciality - Bouef Bourgignone. Along with most of the locals who
patronised the little village restaurants I went to. Maybe Lictor may
wish to comment?

Steak shish-ka-bob on the barby for dinner tonight:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
Remove weight and carbs to email.
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Alan said:

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:16:39 -0500, jbuch <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Results: During 326,876 person-years of follow-up, we documented 1,558
incident cases of type 2 diabetes. After adjusting for age, BMI, total
energy intake, exercise, alcohol intake, cigarette smoking, and family
history of diabetes, we found positive associations between intakes of
red meat and processed meat and risk of type 2 diabetes.

In the book "The Fat Myth", the author discusses the success of the
French way of eating.... high fat included.

The same book discusses the French very low consumption of red meat in
the traditional diet. The author goes on to state that French diet
specialists claim to have long known that red meat consumption is not
good for you, and hence the low inclusion in the traditional French diet.

The Mediterranian diet is also low on red meat. I believe I read that
diabetes is low on this diet as well.

So, there could be something to it.

Fish and Poultry beware.... we are coming after you with a plate, knife
and fork.

JIm

Hi Jim

Apparently no-one had mentioned this to the good restauranteurs of
Beaune, Dijon etc when I was there last year enjoying the local
speciality - Bouef Bourgignone. Along with most of the locals who
patronised the little village restaurants I went to. Maybe Lictor may
wish to comment?

Steak shish-ka-bob on the barby for dinner tonight:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
Remove weight and carbs to email.

Donnoo...

My first reactions to claims of lilttle red meat in national diets is
lack of resources to grow beef. This certainly applies to much of Asia
and the Med countries. I couldn't reconcile the lack of resources idea
with France, though.

Jim

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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 06:25:18 -0500, jbuch <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Steak shish-ka-bob on the barby for dinner tonight:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
Remove weight and carbs to email.

Donnoo...

My first reactions to claims of lilttle red meat in national diets is
lack of resources to grow beef. This certainly applies to much of Asia
and the Med countries. I couldn't reconcile the lack of resources idea
with France, though.

Jim

Quentin's answer said it well enough for me.
Cheers, Alan
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