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Re: Question for you running shoe gurus

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  1. On 2007-08-13, Tony S. <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Given your symptoms, why are you training in shoes with a medial post ?

    Instead of buying shoes with a medial post and other devices that add rigidity,
    and then jumping through hoops to remove or circumvent those devices, why not
    buy a more flexible shoe to begin with ?

    BTW, this obsession with getting rid of the heel is a garden path. Doesn't really
    address your problem.

    A shoe I'd recommend is the Mizuno precision, or some other shoe in that class
    (Parker mentions Brooks burn) -- a lightweight cushioned trainer (no medial
    post!). These shoes will not get in the way of your gait the way posted shoes
    do. Forefoot cushioning is still pretty good. Mizunos have a nice sweet spot
    under the ball of the foot.

    Quoted message said:

    I was comparing those Asics with the Nike Air Pegasus '06 I had laying
    around, which seemed to be much better for my sore feet, and the main

    Why would you do that ? They are different breeds of shoes. The pegasus is a
    cushy trainer, the Asics is posted. Completely different shoes. If the pegasus
    works better, it's a sign that you should get away from posted shoes.

    Cheers,
    --
    Elflord

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    Quoted message said:

    On 2007-08-13, Tony S. <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Given your symptoms, why are you training in shoes with a medial post ?

    Instead of buying shoes with a medial post and other devices that add
    rigidity,
    and then jumping through hoops to remove or circumvent those devices, why
    not
    buy a more flexible shoe to begin with ?

    Good point. Maybe my running style changed or something.

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, this obsession with getting rid of the heel is a garden path. Doesn't
    really
    address your problem.

    That's probably true, though in those Asics, the structure of the shoe
    directs all the force down into that one hinge, and the ramp of the heel
    seems to exacerbate it.

    Quoted message said:

    A shoe I'd recommend is the Mizuno precision, or some other shoe in that
    class
    (Parker mentions Brooks burn) -- a lightweight cushioned trainer (no
    medial
    post!). These shoes will not get in the way of your gait the way posted
    shoes
    do. Forefoot cushioning is still pretty good. Mizunos have a nice sweet
    spot
    under the ball of the foot.

    I think I'm going to try these Mizunos and the Brooks too maybe, though
    first some of those vitruvians that Charlie pointed to, the ones with no
    post.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I was comparing those Asics with the Nike Air Pegasus '06 I had laying
    around, which seemed to be much better for my sore feet, and the main

    Why would you do that ? They are different breeds of shoes. The pegasus is
    a
    cushy trainer, the Asics is posted. Completely different shoes. If the
    pegasus
    works better, it's a sign that you should get away from posted shoes.

    Yup. It's funny though, I like running in the previous models of the Asics
    much more. I use different shoes for different things. A couple of years
    ago, for day to day runs on flat ground I had been using Air Peg '05s, which
    *were* cushy trainers, but I needed more support for long runs on rough
    trails. When the Air Peg '06s came out, they were bricks, and stiff enough
    all around to run on rough trails, though I still prefered the Asics 2110s
    for long runs on rough stuff.

    After my feet got messed up, I found the Air Peg '06 bricks were better for
    my feet in their condition, but I didn't like running in them. After
    recently racing in the 2120s (not a great idea) I have to find something
    else. Partly why I ended up with the Pegs and Asics is that they come in a
    2E model. Moving up to a 12.5 or 13 just doesn't always work. Your points
    are well taken, thanks.

    -Tony

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers,
    --
    Elflord

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