Re: Quackbusters

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Subject: Re: Quackbusters
From: "Dave" [email hidden]
Date: 8/3/2003 4:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Very well said!

Jan

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"Angela" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I read an article about people who hang out on various groups and
> pounce on any reasonable discussion that might lead someone (lucky
> person!) to escape the 'system'. I read that these people are paid.
> How else can they devote so much time and energy to their cause? ...
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Actually, it is a form of entertainment -- and sometimes educational.
Though to keep it easier I have killfiled some of the more prolific

folks

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(like Jan, Debbie, rb, etc), since it is more interesting to read the
responses to their posts.

As for payment, well I actually wrote a check TO the Quachwatch, because

I

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support its goals to educate folks about health fraud. I found them

when

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was researching what turned out to be very bad advice I got from some
clueless relative about my kids (always use caution when getting advice
about children's medical conditions when the advisor is a single

childless

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person who majored in Romance Languages who won't even take their own
naturapath's suggestion to get more exercise!).

By the way you have never answered how you "homeopathically" treat
emergencies like broken bones or massive bleeding.

Doctors definitely have an important role to play in our society. They
remove bullets,
repair knife wounds, aid broken bones, etc. The conflict between the
"medical model"
and the "natural" way, comes when disease occurs. I am quite amazed that
with all the
claimed intellect and insightfulness of the members here, that it has never
occured to
you to wonder what "natural" means. Natural ways have existed since the
beginning of
time while the medical model is little more than 100 years old. That's not
much history in
our universe.

In our society (American) we think we know it all. We also don't like to
have to inconvenience
ourseves. So if we go to our doctor we can simply give ourselves over to him
and he will
almost always prescribe some medication and we can mindlessly take it secure
in the knowledge
that he cares about us. The other side requires us to take responsibilty for
ourselves and our
loved ones. When I hear stories liked this person who took health advice
from a clueless
relative and it didn't work out!!! Well, get a life.

Let me offer you some thoughts for your consideration. If you want to be an
informed person,
you should do some personal research. People who understand the natural way
to health, have
had to learn about it all by themselves. What that means is, we have had to
inconvenience ourselves and look at it from a positive point of view, not
negative. First, you must undertstand that the most
basic difference is that in the medical model, there is no cure. The mission
of medicine is to relieve
the symptoms in order to give the patient the sense that his disease has
been cured. The trouble is
that a new disease appears and that disease gets a new medicine designed to
relieve the symptoms
of that disease, and so on and so on.

In the natural way, a cure becomes possible. The understanding that must be
gained, is that this
cure is effected by our own immune system. The purpose of natural ways is to
restore and maintain
our own immune system so our own bodies can fight our diseases and
conditions. If anybody tells
you that their SBGA or NONI Juice, or ginseng will cure your childs ADHD,
you are now well enough informed to know that they are assuming that you
understand this fundamental bit of knowledge, not trying to trick you. I
happen to fully understand that all of these things will in all
probability build that childs body up enough to "cure" that ADHD. And it
won't come back.
Once you begin to actually understand, you will see how things have come
down to the drug companies fighting for their financial health, which is a
separate issue from your health.

There is much written on cancer and natural ways to solve it. I have seen
numerous cancer patients
who take CHEMO, radiation and other toxic therapies use natural herbs such
as medicinal ginseng
to successfully protect them from the nasty side effects of this treament.
This is a very good example
of medical science and nature working together. None of these patients have
not had any reoccurrence. So, is this a cure? Did the CHEMO cure? Did the
ginseng cure? You choose.

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Surgery does not have much to offer for the common cold, your point is?