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  1. http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/editorial/quack.htm

    Quackbuster Stephen Barrett:

    "Not an Expert," Declares Judge!

    Stephen Barrett, the Wizard of Odds, played his odds and lost. He just hasn't
    had a very good year.

    Stephen Barrett has attacked some of the most successful alternative therapies
    in the world. He has issued threats and initiated lawsuits, and until last
    year, got away with all of it. Then, his world began to crumble.

    Barrett filed a lawsuit against King Bio Pharmaceuticals, makers of
    homeopathics. Now, science has already established the value of homeopathy, but
    Barrett, ignoring science while pandering to the pharmaceutical industry, just
    had to do something. The result? Here is an excerpt from the judge's decision:

    As for his credential as an expert on FDA regulation of homeopathic drugs, the
    Court finds that Dr. Barrett lacks sufficient qualifications in this area.
    Expertise in FDA regulation suggests a knowledge of how the agency enforces
    federal statutes and the agency's own regulations. Dr. Barrett's purported
    legal and regulatory knowledge is not apparent. He is not a lawyer, although he
    claims he attended several semesters of correspondence law school. While Dr.
    Barrett appears to have had several past conversations with FDA
    representatives, these appear to have been sporadic, mainly at his own
    instigation, and principally for the purpose of gathering information for his
    various articles and Internet web-sites. He has never testified before any
    governmental panel or agency on issues relating to FDA regulation of drugs.
    Presumably his professional continuing education experiences are outdated given
    that he has not had a current medical licence [sic] in over seven years. For
    these reasons, there is no sound basis on which to consider Dr. Barrett
    qualified as an expert on the issues he was offered to address. Moreover, there
    was no real focus to his testimony with respect to any of the issues in this
    case associated with Defendants' products.

    C. Credibility of Plaintiff's experts

    Furthermore, the Court finds that both Dr. Sampson and Dr. Barrett are biased
    heavily in favor of the Plaintiff and thus the weight to be accorded their
    testimony is slight in any event. Both are long-time board members of the
    Plaintiff; Dr. Barrett has served as its Chairman. Both participated in an
    application to the U.S. FDA during the early 1990s designed to restrict the
    sale of most homeopathic drugs. Dr. Sampson's university course presents what
    is effectively a one-sided, critical view of alternative medicine. Dr.
    Barrett's heavy activities in lecturing and writing about alternative medicine
    similarly are focused on the eradication of the practices about which he
    opines. Both witnesses' fees, as Dr. Barrett testified, are paid from a fund
    established by Plaintiff NCAHF from the proceeds of suits such as the case at
    bar. Based on this fact alone, the Court may infer that Dr. Barrett and Sampson
    are more likely to receive fees for testifying on behalf of NCAHF in future
    cases if the Plaintiff prevails in the instant action and thereby wins funds to
    enrich the litigation fund described by Dr. Barrett. It is apparent, therefore,
    that both men have a direct, personal financial interest in the outcome of this
    litigation. Based on all of these factors, Dr. Sampson and Dr. Barrett can be
    described as zealous advocates of the Plaintiff's position, and therefore not
    neutral or dispassionate witnesses or experts. In light of these affiliations
    and their orientation, it can fairly be said that Drs. Barrett and Sampson are
    themselves the client, and therefore their testimony should be accorded little,
    if any, credibility on that basis as well.

    This was just one loss in court. The story gets better!

    Some of you know how we here at the Wellness Directory of Minnesota have taken
    an stance against fluoridation. The stuff is just not what the American Dental
    Association has been preaching. I do not drink the stuff and I have just three
    fluoride treatments a year…and then detox the heck out of myself.

    Well, Darlene Sherrell ( http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride ) has a web site
    dedicated to fighting Fluoride Poisoning. She has been under attack by Stephen
    Barrett and his ilk for some time. She fought back and attacked Barrette.
    Barrett filed a libel lawsuit against her. He's threatened many people with
    defamation of character lawsuits (including yours truly) but this was the first
    time it has gotten to court.

    Here is the background, from the Health Freedom Law web site
    (www.healthfreedomlaw.com):

    In the summer of 1998, Darlene Sherrell, challenged Barrett to come forward to
    name a study demonstrating the safety of current fluoride levels in drinking
    water and the effect excessive daily intake of fluoride as a possible cause to
    chronic fluoride poisoning. At the time, in response to Sherrell's challenge
    Barrett was "careful to state that he is and was aware of hundreds of studies
    pertaining to the safety of fluoridation of drinking water..." However, "...He
    did not testify that any study demonstrates the safety of current fluoridation
    levels..." Barrett had rebuked Sherrell's continuous challenges and sent a
    message to her stating that she (Sherrell) was "delusional."

    Long story short, case was dismissed. Barrett who claims to be backed by the
    FDA, FTC, DHHS, NCI, HIH, AMA, and ADA showed up with one witness and his own
    lame testimony. Barrett claimed to have hundreds of studies, but couldn't
    produce one.

    Next, Barrett attacked that famous quack, Dr Hulda Clark who says she can cure
    all diseases. Now, personally, I don't believe anyone can cure all diseases.
    There is something very mystical about healing. And Dr Hulda is probably a bit
    whacko. But, I still love her. She has some darn good ideas and science is
    beginning to prove her out. Well, Barrett lost his case against her too!

    Now, this isn't over yet, because there are laws against filing frivolous
    lawsuits and Barrett is just beginning to feel the backlash of his programmed
    stupidity. He's been slapped left and right with lawsuits for filing frivolous
    lawsuits, and it is estimated that he now owes somewhere close to half a
    million dollars.

    And now that he's been losing in court, people are starting to sue him. Century
    Press just filed a $10 Million lawsuit against him (Hulda Clark's publishing
    company).

    After years of threatening everyone and everything with lawsuits, Barrett is on
    the losing end of every single one of them. This being the case, he dropped his
    lawsuit against Dr Joseph Mercola, who runs one of the best alternative
    medicine web sites in the world (and much of what we find and pass on to you
    comes from the good doctor).

    So, to all those wonderful organizations who give credence to the garbage
    published at Quackwatch (and their ilk) and to the URAC (www.urac.org) that
    certifies Medically Sound Web Sites (Barrett's web site is certified by URAC!),
    we say, your time is running out. Barrett is no expert, he has no science to
    back up his claims, and his web site has enough BS to fertilize all the farms
    in Iowa, Minnesota, and Nebraska.

    Medicine as we know it, is on the brink of destruction. Healing is where the
    heart is. The future of Medicine is going to be based upon what Edison and
    Socrates tried to tell us long ago: "We are what we eat" along with what
    ancient texts, including the Bible, have told us for centuries: Our Creator
    (Nature) has supplied us with all the medicines we will ever need. Now, if we
    can stop the corruption of our environment by monied interests, heck, Paradise
    isn't too far off.

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  2. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/editorial/quack.htm

    Quackbuster Stephen Barrett:

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    Barrett filed a lawsuit against King Bio Pharmaceuticals, makers of
    homeopathics. Now, science has already established the value of


    homeopathy, but

    Quoted message said:

    Barrett, ignoring science while pandering to the pharmaceutical industry,


    just

    Quoted message said:

    had to do something. The result? Here is an excerpt from the judge's


    decision

    Well I don't agree with this - science has already established the value of
    homeopathy.
    I've not seen any double blind randomised studies done on homeopathy that
    show any benefit.
    Perhaps there's some out there?
    :
    I emailed Dr Barret a while back if there were any alt cancer treatments
    that work - he said no.
    I simply don't believe the guy.
    Anth

  3. If it worked then it wouldn't be "alternative" now would it?

    Lose..lose situation. Only scholars know the difference.

    LOL

    "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/editorial/quack.htm

    Quackbuster Stephen Barrett:

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    Barrett filed a lawsuit against King Bio Pharmaceuticals, makers of
    homeopathics. Now, science has already established the value of


    homeopathy, but

    Quoted message said:

    Barrett, ignoring science while pandering to the pharmaceutical


    industry,

    Quoted message said:

    just

    Quoted message said:

    had to do something. The result? Here is an excerpt from the judge's


    decision

    Well I don't agree with this - science has already established the value


    of

    Quoted message said:

    homeopathy.
    I've not seen any double blind randomised studies done on homeopathy that
    show any benefit.
    Perhaps there's some out there?
    :
    I emailed Dr Barret a while back if there were any alt cancer treatments
    that work - he said no.
    I simply don't believe the guy.
    Anth

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Anth said:

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/editorial/quack.htm

    Quackbuster Stephen Barrett:

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    Barrett filed a lawsuit against King Bio Pharmaceuticals, makers of
    homeopathics. Now, science has already established the value of


    homeopathy, but

    Quoted message said:

    Barrett, ignoring science while pandering to the pharmaceutical industry,


    just

    Quoted message said:

    had to do something. The result? Here is an excerpt from the judge's


    decision

    Well I don't agree with this - science has already established the value of
    homeopathy.

    Yep -- zero.

    Quoted message said:

    I've not seen any double blind randomised studies done on homeopathy that
    show any benefit.

    I think there have been one or two, but have they been replicated? I
    think not.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  5. (Jan) said:

    http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/editorial/quack.htm

    See, how Jan Drew makes his work for the naturopath mafia.

    In this posting Jan Drew seeds hatred. As usual.

    Quoted message said:

    Quackbuster Stephen Barrett:

    "Not an Expert," Declares Judge!

    Stephen Barrett, the Wizard of Odds, played his odds and lost. He just hasn't
    had a very good year.

    Stephen Barrett has attacked some of the most successful alternative therapies
    in the world. He has issued threats and initiated lawsuits, and until last
    year, got away with all of it. Then, his world began to crumble.

    Barrett filed a lawsuit against King Bio Pharmaceuticals, makers of
    homeopathics. Now, science has already established the value of homeopathy, but
    Barrett, ignoring science while pandering to the pharmaceutical industry, just
    had to do something. The result? Here is an excerpt from the judge's decision:

    Here we see a blatant lie. Homeopathy NEVER proved any value.
    Homeopathy is fraud.

    So, what is the use of Jan Drew's posting ?

    The use is to

    a) seed hatred.

    b) spread the false claim that homeopathy is working

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

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    Here is one of the anchors. The naturopath mafia MUST spread its false
    claims, his hatred and his lies. Therefore the texts must be pumped
    into the self-aid groups, into the web-forums and into the usenet.
    Therefore the copyright note says :

    <quote>
    You may copy, print, reprint, and/or transfer this entire article,
    </quote>

    To make the whole thing work, the copyright note demands :

    <quote>
    if and only if it is unmodified and in its complete state with
    this copyright notice attached and all the links work properly.
    </quote>

    This way it is ensured, that the whole intention of the hatespread
    texts is transported, transported in the original sense of its
    writers.

    Mafia work.

    Regards,

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    Vollalternative Schmerzbehandlung

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amalanc1.htm

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