Quoted message said:Quoted message said:On Jun 18, 8:16 am, [email hidden] wrote: Pop quiz, does it take only one bit of counter evidence and example to
toss a notion, true or false?
An example, india has the world's number one highest level of
diabetes
and associated metabolic diseases. That country also has a very high
proportion who are mostly or completely veggie alone folk. <<
I guess you have already forgotten they have the highest rate of iron
storage of anyone .. ?
How come you forgot that .. ?
Wasn't it .. you .. who place it .. ?
http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.med.nutrition/msg/3e906908d823cc0f?hl=en&
Wouldn't that be kind of important IN this .. **proposal** you have
AGAIN .. put forth .. ?
These are medical newsgroups and you **have to** had read that .. how
many times .. ?
"The finding that Asians and Pacific Islanders have high levels of
iron
in the blood is surprising because they also have the lowest
prevalence
of the particular gene mutation that is found in Caucasians with the
typical form of hemochromatosis," he said. "This may mean that the
Asians and Pacific Islanders have a different genetic mutation that
has
not yet been discovered, or that they do not, for some reason,
develop
hemochromatosis/iron overload despite their high blood levels of
iron."
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:At the same time the rate of low iron and anemia among women and children is very high.<<
I think you were also shown the studies which show .. clearly .. the
'anemia' found in underdeveloped countries is DUE TO .. 'anemia' of
chronic .. disease .. as opposed TO .. iron deficiency .. AND .. the
studies which show .. again .. clearly .. anemia is treated with ..
vitamin C .. effectively.
Soooo .. since you were shown these .. counter arguments .. and FAIL
to address them .. and CONTINUE .. to .. repeat / prattle .. UPON ..
the SAME .. ineffectual .. tack .. one might consider YOU .. to BE ..
as someone .. recently pointed out .. someone on some trick .. pony ..
and it doesn't DO .. too many .. tricks ..
Heh .. heh ..
<<snip>>
The contribution of iron deficiency to anemia was low
<<snip>>
Thurlow RA, Winichagoon P, Green T, Wasantwisut E, Pongcharoen T,
Bailey KB, Gibson RS
Am J Clin Nutr. 2005 Aug ; 82(2): 380-7
BACKGROUND: Iron deficiency is assumed to be the major cause of
anemia
in northeast Thailand, but other factors may be involved. OBJECTIVE:
We
determined the prevalence of anemia among schoolchildren in northeast
Thailand and the role of hemoglobinopathies, selected micronutrient
deficiencies, and other factors in hemoglobin status. DESIGN: Blood
samples were collected from 567 children aged 6-12.9 y attending 10
primary schools for the determination of a complete blood count and
hemoglobin type [Hb AA (normal hemoglobin), Hb AE (heterozygous for
Hb
type E), and Hb EE (homozygous for Hb type E)] and the measurement of
serum ferritin, transferrin receptor, retinol, vitamin B-12, and
plasma
and erythrocyte folate concentrations. Children with a C-reactive
protein concentration >/=10 mg/L (n = 12), which indicated infection,
were excluded. RESULTS: The prevalence of anemia was 31%. Age,
hemoglobin type, and serum retinol were the major predictors of
hemoglobin concentration. Hb AA and Hb AE children with anemia had
lower (P < 0.01) hematocrit, mean cell volume, and serum retinol
values
than did their nonanemic counterparts; no significant differences in
serum ferritin were found by hemoglobin type. Only 16% (n = 22) of
the
anemic Hb AA and Hb AE children were iron deficient. Hb AA and Hb AE
children with a serum retinol concentration <0.70 mumol/L (n = 14)
had
a significantly higher geometric mean serum ferritin concentration
than
did those with a retinol concentration >/=0.70 mumol/L (P = 0.009);
no
significant difference in transferrin receptor concentrations was
found
between these 2 groups. CONCLUSIONS: Hemoglobinopathies, suboptimal
vitamin A status, and age were the major predictors of hemoglobin
concentration. The contribution of iron deficiency to anemia was low,
and its detection was complicated by coexisting suboptimal vitamin A
status.
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Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Pop quiz 2, true or false?
These examples counter to your notion are enough to toss it?<<
Do those articles .. done by YOUR .. 'ilk' .. convince YOU .. ?
See we both agree on something .. we both don't trust you guys .. no
matter HOW **clear** it looks .. to .. be ..
Heh .. heh ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
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