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Re: power of positive thinking

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  1. Quoted message said:

    Time for fun!

    Here are my last seven daily 15.1 mile ride times, sorted from fastest
    to slowest:

    mm:ss      ss

    1. 46:21    2781  fastest
    2. 46:48    2808  +27
    3. 47:14    2834  +26
    4. 48:09    2889  +55
    5. 48:51    2931  +42
    6. 49:12    2952  +21
    7. 49:26    2966  +11

    The fastest time was ~94% of the slowest time.

    If you had to guess, which ride(s) would you guess--

    Er, which ride(s) would you predict had 7 pounds of steel rods added
    to the top tube of a ~27 pound bicycle with a ~193 pound rider?

    IT'S A TRICK DON'T FALL FOR IT!

    Quoted message said:

    The bike felt "heavier" with eight 400-gram steel rods tucked into a
    piece of MTB inner tube and clamped to the top tube with three
    hose-clamps.

    Part of the "heavy" feeling must have been due to the additional 7
    pounds.

    But much of the "heaviness" may have been due to my expectations and
    to the damping effect of 7 pounds of rubber-wrapped steel rods on the
    familiar vibration.

    After all, the bike felt "heavy" at ~ 40 mph downhill on a 65 mph
    highway, even though I was tucked in and coasting instead of pushing
    against the pedals.

    No matter the results of your experiments, the weight difference's
    effect is always there, going up or down hills, on the flats,
    whatever, plus (slower time) on the ups and flats, minus on the
    downhills.

    Sounds like you've been getting some good exercise, and you noticed a
    difference in feel, if not a Saturn booster-size blast of acceleration
    <g> (IOW, I hear you IRT "writing ad copy and not getting paid for
    it"😉.

    FWIW, I have a couple of bikes that are Ti, with different
    "layouts" (tube shape, fork material, about a 1/2" difference in
    wheelbase, and tubing angles, plus a much longer top tube on one) that
    have very different riding feedback, to use the words. IOW, it doesn't
    take a change in material or a drastic weight difference to make an
    undeniable difference in response (to use the word)... but rocket
    acceleration? A rocket, please, or much stronger legs.

    I'm lucky, I guess as the magic of magic componentry (tubular tire
    wheels compared to fat clinchers, in my case) was revealed to be
    mostly a parlor trick at the first uphill I came to on my shiny new
    used race bike, way back in 1972. That said, the (small and not quite
    so small) differences are always there, for weight or aero. --D-y

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