Re: Phlebotomy alternative to Hydroxychloroquine?

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On Mar 24, 7:51 pm, "William R Thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Plasmapheresis is not bloodletting, <<

Seems it is good .. YOU are not the ONLY one who has the .. say .. as
to whether bloodletting and plasmapheresis are .. different ..

Seems those people .. without .. lupus .. believe it IS the .. same ..

But then again people with lupus have a problem with .. sanity .. so
it would explain your inability to .. comprehend ..

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9D06E2DD1F39F934A15757C0A964948260

BLOODLETTING IS REVIVED FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF MODERN ILLS

By LAWRENCE K. ALTMAN
Published: April 27, 1982
IN a return to the Hippocratic practice of bloodletting, once believed
to purge the body of bad humors and to restore the vigor of life,
doctors in many countries now are bleeding patients to treat a myriad
of disorders. The widely varying results have led to many medical
controversies about the practice, which is costly and timeconsuming,
yet has saved lives. Some estimates foresee hundreds of thousands of
these procedures being done annually by mid-decade at a cost of
billions of dollars.

In the ancient practice of bloodletting, all purged blood was
discarded. In the modern versions, the technique is named according to
the portions that are selectively removed. For example, in therapeutic
plasm@ap@heresis (also called plasma exchange or apheresis) the fluid
plasma portion of the blood is discarded. Dramatic improvement has
been reported among patients affected by the 50 or so disorders in
which it has been tried over recent years, disorders as disparate as
rheumatoid arthritis and mushroom poisoning.

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Med J Aust. 1979 Aug 25;2(4):167-73. Links
Plasma exchange: a selective form of blood-letting.
Isbister JP.
The technique of, and indications for, plasma exchange are presented.
This selective form of plasma removal has re-established "blood-
letting" in medical therapeutics on a scientific basis.
It is the most appropriate therapy when hyperviscosity or haemostatic
failure complicate immunoproliferative disease.
Plasma exchange is also a significant advance in the management of
fulminant forms of autoimmune disease, but in many other conditions it
must be regarded as experimental.

PMID: 160005 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Rusty, the Wizard of Odd, <[email hidden]> trolled:

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"William R Thompson" wrote:

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Plasmapheresis is not bloodletting,

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Seems it is good .. YOU are not the ONLY one who has the .. say .. as
to whether bloodletting and plasmapheresis are .. different ..

Bloodletting, Rusty, is letting out whole blood.

Plasmapheresis is the removal of plasma, returning all
other blood components to the body. Including,
guess what, the hemoglobin in the red blood cells.

Two different things, Rusty. Can you count up to two?

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Seems those people .. without .. lupus .. believe it IS the .. same ..

So not having lupus makes you believe nonsense?
I always thought you believed nonsense because you're stupid.
I wasn't aware that you blamed your idiocy on good health.
Are you hanging out here because you hope to catch lupus?

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But then again people with lupus have a problem with .. sanity

Let's put that to the test, Rusty. See how everyone here reacts
when you finally display some sanity. C'mon, Rusty, take off your
foil hat and let it all hang out!

--Bill Thompson