Re: OT - Beer



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Tom Sherman

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[email protected] wrote:
> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
> to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
> So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
> here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
> weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
> even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
> wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
> the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
> so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
> Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
> it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
> at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>
Does barley wine qualify as beer?

I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
Could be like the Hiney Wine in the green bottles.. But 11%!!.. Call
it whatever you like, and call me a cab.. Could make a person prefer a
tadpole over a lowracer... And for the record, blithering is not
encouraged on ARBR-- It would confuse our fulltime blatherers..



On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>
> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
dale wrote:
>
> On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>>
>> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>>
> Could be like the Hiney Wine in the green bottles.. But 11%!!.. Call
> it whatever you like, and call me a cab.. Could make a person prefer a
> tadpole over a lowracer... And for the record, blithering is not
> encouraged on ARBR-- It would confuse our fulltime blatherers..

Better a lowracer than a highracer or upright for riding drunk. Falls do
not hurt that much when you start 30 cm or less from the ground.

A go cart track, a tadpole and being drunk would be an excellent
combination!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
> > to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
> > So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
> > here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
> > weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
> > even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
> > wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
> > the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
> > so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
> > Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
> > it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
> > at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>
> Does barley wine qualify as beer?

Finest kind in my book. I'm not sure technically, but any beer review
site will include it. The brewers often call it beer. It's in the
beer section at my local bottle shop and my local supermarkets. It's
a beer to me!


> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.

Cool. If you get a chance post back with what you think. Have you
had barley wines in the past?
 
On Mar 4, 11:34 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> dale wrote:
>
> > On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>
> >> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>
> > Could be like the Hiney Wine in the green bottles.. But 11%!!.. Call
> > it whatever you like, and call me a cab.. Could make a person prefer a
> > tadpole over a lowracer... And for the record, blithering is not
> > encouraged on ARBR-- It would confuse our fulltime blatherers..
>
> Better a lowracer than a highracer or upright for riding drunk. Falls do
> not hurt that much when you start 30 cm or less from the ground.
>
> A go cart track, a tadpole and being drunk would be an excellent
> combination!

Heh... for the first time in my life I now want a trike. Not nearly
bad enough to buy one, but it's a fun thought. I know where I can
find a go-cart track I could sneak into in the wee hours of the morn.
That'd be fun explaining to the cabby. "I just need you to take me
and this trike to the go-cart track." "Of course I know it's 2am, do
you think I'd be able to get this thing on there in the day?". "Why
yes, I am drunk. I had 2 beers! That was an important part of this
plan". "No, I'm not a lightweight. You drink six of these things and
you'll become a blithering idiot".
 
CHOH decreases water capacity, increased water capacity increases
energy output.
 
CHOH decreases water capacity, increased water capacity increases
energy output.
 
On Mar 4, 5:37 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>

Barleywine is to wine what chicken-fried steak is to chicken. Yes,
it's beer, but with an alcohol content similar to wine, hence the
name. Some local food labeling laws cause it to be marketed as
"barleywine-style beer" which leads to a misconception that it is not
actually barleywine, when that's exactly what it is. Such laws are to
prevent stupid people from thinking it's grape-based.
 
On Mar 4, 7:37 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
> > to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
> > So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
> > here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
> > weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
> > even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
> > wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
> > the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
> > so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
> > Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
> > it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
> > at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>
> Does barley wine qualify as beer?

Despite its name it is merely a very strong (read high alcohol
content) style of ale though ... not to be mistaken for a session beer
chugged down on a hot day.

> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
"JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:79b7062a-4671-42ad-b650-aa0a51d791bc@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 4, 7:37 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> > A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
>> > to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
>> > So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
>> > here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
>> > weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
>> > even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
>> > wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
>> > the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
>> > so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
>> > Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
>> > it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
>> > at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>>
>> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>
> Despite its name it is merely a very strong (read high alcohol
> content) style of ale though ... not to be mistaken for a session beer
> chugged down on a hot day.
>
>> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.

I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake, they
will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below as you
are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!

Regards,

Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
On Mar 5, 5:03 pm, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake, they
> will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below as you
> are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!
>


Lest they sap and impurify all of our Precious Bodily Fluids...
 
[email protected] wrote:
> On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
>>> to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
>>> So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
>>> here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
>>> weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
>>> even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
>>> wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
>>> the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
>>> so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
>>> Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
>>> it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
>>> at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>
> Finest kind in my book. I'm not sure technically, but any beer review
> site will include it. The brewers often call it beer. It's in the
> beer section at my local bottle shop and my local supermarkets. It's
> a beer to me!
>
>
>> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>
> Cool. If you get a chance post back with what you think. Have you
> had barley wines in the past?

No, but since I like wheat beer [1], it appears promising.

[1] Local favorites: <http://www.islandwheat.com/> and
<http://www.gooseisland.com/beers/pop-ups/5_312.html>.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore!
 
H2Ophile Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> "JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:79b7062a-4671-42ad-b650-aa0a51d791bc@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 4, 7:37 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> > A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
>>> > to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
>>> > So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
>>> > here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
>>> > weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
>>> > even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
>>> > wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
>>> > the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
>>> > so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
>>> > Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
>>> > it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
>>> > at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>>>
>>> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>>
>> Despite its name it is merely a very strong (read high alcohol
>> content) style of ale though ... not to be mistaken for a session beer
>> chugged down on a hot day.
>>
>>> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>
> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake,
> they will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down
> below as you are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the
> Gods!
>
I cured my my foot numbness problem with SiDi Dominator II Mega shoes.
Shoes that are too tight across the foot and/or with too flexible of a
sole do not work well for most people on a high bottom bracket recumbent.

Tomato juice is a good drink for cycling. Lots of sodium to prevent
hyponatremia [1] and carbohydrates for energy. Drinking too much water
without extra sodium in hot weather can lead to hyponatremia, which is
not good (been there, done that, did not enjoy the experience).

[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia>.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Hank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:7d56077e-b52f-4c77-ba00-c398b7d99b27@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 5, 5:03 pm, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake,
>> they
>> will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below as
>> you
>> are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!
>>
>>> Lest they sap and impurify all of our Precious Bodily Fluids...
>
> I thought everyone in "Dr Strangelove" was totally sane and all acted very
> reasonably. It is why I advocate the carpet atom bombing of all Muslim
> lands. That would be the best way to rid the world of that odious religion
> (Islam) and the savages who follow it.
>
> By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim school
> in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let us
> hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
Many of those people in Ohio, Rhode Island and Texas voting for $Hillary
must be Republicans crossing over.

I think I may vote for gene "datakoll" daniels as a write-in candidate.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> H2Ophile Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake,
>>> they will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below
>>> as you are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!
>>>
>> I cured my my foot numbness problem with SiDi Dominator II Mega shoes.
>> Shoes that are too tight across the foot and/or with too flexible of a
>> sole do not work well for most people on a high bottom bracket recumbent.
>
> My foot numbness had nothing to do with too tight shoes, cycling or
> otherwise. It had everything to do with too much vino.
>
>> Tomato juice is a good drink for cycling. Lots of sodium to prevent
>> hyponatremia [1] and carbohydrates for energy. Drinking too much water
>> without extra sodium in hot weather can lead to hyponatremia, which is not
>> good (been there, done that, did not enjoy the experience).
>>
>> [1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia>.
>
> I have cycled in the hottest whether imaginable and have never had any
> problem with salt depletion. I think most folks only imagine this condition.
> You would have to really be stupid to drink too much water in any event.
> Hells Bells, only drink when you are thirsty. Thus spake Zarathustra.
>
When one is riding from home to the nearest store with cheap wine in
Worthington, who needs to drink on the way?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
On Mar 5, 9:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim school
> in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let us
> hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>

Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
school.

Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
prime minister is named Ehud Barak.
 
On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:37:28 -0600, Tom Sherman
<[email protected]> may have said:

>Does barley wine qualify as beer?

This is locally variable. In some places, a fermented beverage whose
ingredients do not include hops cannot be sold as beer; the same is
often true for uncarbonated brews. "Malt liquor" may or may not be an
effective synonym for "barley wine" in some places.

The situation is at least as complicated as that of the varying
definition of chocolate between Belgium and England. This may have
changed, but at one time Cadbury milk chocolate contained too little
cocoa solids to qualify as chocolate by the Belgian standards, but it
reportedly contained just enough dairy content to theoretically be
able to be called "cheese".

The shifting definition of "Sterling silver" between different nations
is another example of locality-dependent terminology.

--
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Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
 
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:18:56 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I may sit this election out. All I know for sure is that the country is
>doomed!

Let's see: massive recession with stagflation and credit markets
tumbling, $700b pointless war continuing, imported labor (direct and
indirect) eliminating most US based jobs, the Constitution and Bill of
Rights apparently no longer observed... no matter who we elect, at
least it can't get much worse.
 
On Mar 6, 1:40 am, Hank <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim school
> > in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Letus
> > hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
> Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
> school.
>
> Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
> prime minister is named Ehud Barak.

Dolan and O'Bama are Jewish. O'Bama's family are slumlords.
 
On Mar 5, 11:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Hank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 5, 9:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim
> > school
> > in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let
> > us
> > hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
> >>Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
>
> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
> school.
>
> Is B. Hussein Obama then a Roman Catholic?

Nope, he's a member of the United Church of Christ. His maternal
grandparents were Methodists who became Unitarians, and his mother was
a secular humanist agnostic.

>
> What do you make of the following information?
>
> "Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout
> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. His stepfather,
> wh o had a much greater impact on Obama's upbringing, was a radical
> Wahabbi Muslim. Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro, a Wahabbi
> extremist who lived in Indonesia. When Obama's mother moved to
> Indonesia - before she married her second Muslim husband - she enrolled
> her son in Francis Assisis Catholic School. He was enrolled as a Muslim
> because he was a Muslim." By Michael Reisig

Who is Michael Reisig? From my Google search, it appears he writes
works of fiction, not journalism. The rest of your quote lifts
straight from the email debunked by Snopes.com.

>
> >>Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
>
> prime minister is named Ehud Barak.
>
> Barak Hussein Obama is an Arab Muslim name. Some folks even get him confused
> with Osama Bin Laden!


"Obama" is a Dholuo name, from the language spoken by the Luo tribe of
Kenya. His paternal grandfather was named Onyango Obama, and he was a
Catholic who converted to Islam, though the whole family did not
convert. Barack Sr.'s stepmother who raised him remains Catholic to
this day.

>
> Also, what do you make of this?
>
> "Obama's campaign website has been hailed as a testament to the
> candidate's transformative politics. But at least part of the senator's
> online outreach, "Muslim Americans for Obama '08" proposes installing
> Muslim prayer areas in public places and giving Muslims time off for
> prayer, and has denounced Obama's colleagues in the U.S. Senate who
> happen to be Jewish." By Michael Reisig

"Muslim Americans for Obama '08" is not part of Obama's campaign, but
Muslims who support him, posting what they'd like to see.

>
> In any event, it is insane to suppose that B. Hussein Obama was not deeply
> influenced by his Muslim background. His mother apparently had a thing for
> Muslim men since she married two of them! She must have been a real kook!
>

Takes one to spot one.
 
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