oo yah, and just for the heck of it, i grabbed onto a wall, stood up on the pedals (the seat is lowered) put the saddle on my stomach, and pedaled. At the time, ifelt very suicidal, like i was going to do a head first plunge into the concrete. Turns out a didn't, so i tried it again. this time i tripped over the pedals when i fell, but nothing bad. Something fun to try.