Re: Omega 3 required amounts

There is not one piece of good scientific evidence that an adult human
who does not want to (or cannot become) pregnant needs any
polyunsaturated fatty acids in the diet. Your body makes its own
polyunsaturate, the Mead acid, and that is all you need, and that is
the most healthy situation. Unless you eat all "fat free" foods, you
will get some trace amounts of polyunsaturates, but your body can
handle that. If you eat more than a trace amount of PUFAs, your body
incorporates AA in body tissues, and you are then assured of getting
one or another "chronic disease," if you live that long. I have
challenged people over and over again to cite a paper that demonstrates
that dietary PUFAs are "essential," and never has anyone done so. It
is all based on a flawed rat experiment from 1903 (Burr & Burr). I
have avoided PUFAs for a few years now, and my body is in better shape
than ever before.

On 13 Apr 2005 13:14:41 -0700, "montygram" <[email hidden]>

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is all based on a flawed rat experiment from 1903 (Burr & Burr). I

That experiment gets older and older :-)

Since you are so completely obsessed on the matter of no need of EFA
in diet, so why not try total enteral feeding, completely free of PUFA
yourself. The deficiency was quite wellknown side effect. (Today such
nutrition also contain both omega-6 and omega-3 so you have to tell
them that you want it completely free of PUFA)

Other people should definitively not try this treatment since it may
be life threatening in long run.

montygram said:

There is not one piece of good scientific evidence that an adult

human

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who does not want to (or cannot become) pregnant needs any
polyunsaturated fatty acids in the diet.

Your memory seems to be getting worse. Here's a repost of what I quoted
back in December:

"Thirty years later, Hansen et al. [140] were the first to describe
EFAD in humans. They observed unsatisfactory growth rates and dryness
of the
skin in many infants on low LA intakes. EFAD has been most extensively
described in subjects on fat-free total parenteral nutrition (TPN)
[141-147]. For example, O'Neill et al. [142] reported on 28 patients,
ranging from newborns to 66 years old, who received fat-free TPN. LA
levels fell rapidly, followed by AA. In most of the patients the
20:3n9/20:4n6 ratio (a biochemical marker for EFAD) had
increased after a few weeks above the 0.4 criterion [148], followed
approximately one week later by clinical signs of a scaly and thin
skin, and hair loss. In addition to these classical EFAD symptoms,
many other biological and behavioural changes have been documented
[149-151]"

Two of the refs:

Wene JD, Connor WE, DenBesten L. The development of essential fatty
acid deficiency in healthy men fed fat-free diets intravenously and
orally. J Clin Invest 1975;56:127-34

O'Neill JA, Caldwell MD, Meng HC. Essential fatty acid deficiency in
surgical patients. Ann Surg 1977;185:535-41

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Your body makes its own
polyunsaturate, the Mead acid, and that is all you need, and that is
the most healthy situation.

Unless you believe the quote above which says that when the ratio of
Mead's acid to Arachidonic acid rises above 0.4, approximately a week
later deficiency symptoms are observed i.e. more Mead's and less AA
leads to clinical symptoms.

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Unless you eat all "fat free" foods, you
will get some trace amounts of polyunsaturates, but your body can
handle that. If you eat more than a trace amount of PUFAs, your body
incorporates AA in body tissues,

Not if you're eating more omega three which is what the original poster
was asking. Omega three displaces AA.

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and you are then assured of getting
one or another "chronic disease," if you live that long. I have
challenged people over and over again to cite a paper that

demonstrates

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that dietary PUFAs are "essential," and never has anyone done so.

You mean you can't remember (or refuse to admit) anyone doing so.
Different thing entirely.

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It
is all based on a flawed rat experiment from 1903 (Burr & Burr). I
have avoided PUFAs for a few years now, and my body is in better

shape

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than ever before.

Given the Disorders you claim to have had before, that's not actually
saying very much.

MattLB