Re NO basis for LIES

Jan the Accuser said:

Mark should have watched 60 minutes last night. It was
stated people were giving *misleading* facts. At that
point it was asked what is misleading, answer; well it
is LYING.

Why haven't you posted EVEN ONE example of one of these LIES
you claim I told? You can't back up your accusations with
anything. But I've got lots of examples of LIES you have
told. It just burns you up that I can prove what a
despicable LIAR you are. You poor, pathetic fool.

Jan's FALSE ACCUSATIONS, in her own words, with clickable
Google links to all ORIGINAL SOURCES.

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Jan said:

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From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]

Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to
discredit you by making insinuations about who you are or
what your motives may be.

Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.

That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have
NEVER accused

anyone of

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any such thing.

So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!

You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid
shills -----

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:w.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-
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Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing
starts. Mostly comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

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Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives
off his wife.

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As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

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As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names
when in fact he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his
own people.

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Mark still squawking.

<yawn>

One individual was responsible for a great deal of
miscommunication regarding anatoxin-a, information which is
still accessible on many Internet sites. Cell Tech sued
Mark Thorson for posting defamatory statements about Cell
Tech, its products and its personnel to various Internet or
Usenet news groups. Cell Tech's lawsuit against Mr. Thorson
has now been settled. As part of the settlement agreement,
Mr. Thorson has posted the Retraction Statement that
appears below. Although he did retract the allegations that
he had been widely circulating, we all know that one
cannot, with a single correct statement, undo all the harm
done by many mis-statements that continue to circulate.

Deliberately

1 : characterized by or resulting from careful and thorough
consideration
2 : characterized by awareness of the consequences
<deliberate falsehood>

Mark should have watched 60 minutes last night. It was
stated people were giving *misleading* facts. At that point
it was asked what is misleading, answer; well it is LYING.

Subject: Retraction of Anatoxin-a Primer

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During the last several years, I have from time to time
posted to this and other newsgroups a file of
information called "An Anatoxin-a Primer." I

now

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retract the statements made in the Anatoxin-a Primer.

The Anatoxin-a Primer implied that Super Blue Green
Algae from Klamath

Lake,

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produced by Cell Tech, contains anatoxin-a (a neurotoxin
I characterized

as

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addictive), and that Cell Tech deliberately avoids
testing for this toxin because anatoxin-a is responsible
for the effects reported by SBGA users.

I

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have since been advised that Cell Tech conducts regular
tests that would disclose anatoxin-a, and that this
toxin has never been found in Super

Blue

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Green Algae. I had no basis for the suggestions I
made in the Anatoxin-a Primer, and I hereby retract
it in full.

Jan the Accuser said:

SHOW US,SHOW US, SHOW US.

Are you just pretending to be STUPID?

You claimed I lied.

I claim that ANY STATEMENT made by me about Cell Tech or
their algae that you could choose to post as an example of
one of these LIES would OBVIOUSLY not be a LIE.

YOU are the one making the claim I lied.

It is YOUR responsibility to back up that claim with
an example.

But you don't want to be pinned down to any one statement,
because you KNOW that would make it obvious you have made a
FALSE accusation.

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If it was OBVIOUS, you would have posted it long ago, post
the original, show us the exact words.

If I chose an example, you would claim the LIE was some
other statement.

You would try anything to weasel out of being pinned down to
any specific statement.

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You can't, youR lies and *claims* have caught up
with you.

No, it hasn't. I claim that ANY statement I made about the
algae is OBVIOUSLY not a LIE. That claim stands. You have
been UNABLE to disprove it.

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You are insane not to show us the ORIGINAL *IF* it
OBVIOUSLY shows you did not lie.

YOU are the one claiming that I told a LIE. But you won't
post any ORIGINAL STATEMENT from me which is a LIE.

Because you CAN'T.

ANY STATEMENT of mine about Cell Tech or their algae you
could choose to post would OBVIOUSLY not be a LIE.

If you disagree with that, then post one of these LIES you
claim I told.

You won't do that, because then it would be OBVIOUS to
everybody that you made a FALSE ACCUSATION against me when
you claimed I lied.

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If it showed that I lied, and everybody would know, you
would have posted it long ago.

The end.

Jan

I've done it, several times. I've posted one (of many)
examples of an ORIGINAL STATEMENT made by you which is a
LIE. (See below.)

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Jan said:

Quoted message said:

From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]

Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to
discredit you by making insinuations about who you are or
what your motives may be.

Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.

That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have
NEVER accused

anyone of

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any such thing.

So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!

You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid
shills -----

Whatever organized medicine says is swallowed hook line and
sinker by the shill EGO handicapped debunkers who are
brainwashed.

Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing
starts. Mostly comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives
off his wife.

As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names
when in fact he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his
own people.