Re NO basis for LIES

Jan the Accuser said:

Mark should have watched 60 minutes last night. It was stated people
were giving *misleading* facts. At that point it was asked what is
misleading, answer; well it is LYING.

Why haven't you posted EVEN ONE example of one of
these LIES you claim I told? You can't back up your
accusations with anything. But I've got lots of examples
of LIES you have told. It just burns you up that I can
prove what a despicable LIAR you are. You poor,
pathetic fool.

Jan's FALSE ACCUSATIONS, in her own words,
with clickable Google links to all ORIGINAL SOURCES.

To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-m01.aol.com

Jan said:

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From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]

Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to discredit
you by making insinuations about who you are or what your
motives may be.

Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.

That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have NEVER accused

anyone of

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any such thing.

So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!

You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid shills -----

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-fn.aol.com

Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing starts. Mostly
comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030412210802.08778.00000680%40mb-fw.aol.com

Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030410170838.14245.00000347%40mb-ct.aol.com

As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030325123827.25124.00000246%40mb-mn.aol.com

As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names when in fact
he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his own people.

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Mark still squawking.

<yawn>

One individual was responsible for a great deal of miscommunication
regarding anatoxin-a, information which is still accessible on many Internet
sites. Cell Tech sued Mark Thorson for posting defamatory statements about
Cell Tech, its products and its personnel to various Internet or Usenet news
groups.
Cell Tech's lawsuit against Mr. Thorson has now been settled. As part of the
settlement agreement, Mr. Thorson has posted the Retraction Statement
that appears below. Although he did retract the allegations that he had
been widely circulating, we all know that one cannot, with a single correct
statement, undo all the harm done by many mis-statements that continue to
circulate.

Deliberately

1 : characterized by or resulting from careful and thorough consideration
2 : characterized by awareness of the consequences <deliberate falsehood>

Mark should have watched 60 minutes last night. It was stated people were
giving *misleading* facts. At that point it was asked what is misleading,
answer; well it is LYING.

Subject: Retraction of Anatoxin-a Primer

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During the last several years, I have from time to time posted to this and
other newsgroups a file of information called "An Anatoxin-a Primer." I

now

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retract the statements made in the Anatoxin-a Primer.

The Anatoxin-a Primer implied that Super Blue Green Algae from Klamath

Lake,

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produced by Cell Tech, contains anatoxin-a (a neurotoxin I characterized

as

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addictive), and that Cell Tech deliberately avoids testing for this toxin
because anatoxin-a is responsible for the effects reported by SBGA users.

I

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have since been advised that Cell Tech conducts regular tests that would
disclose anatoxin-a, and that this toxin has never been found in Super

Blue

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Green Algae. I had no basis for the suggestions I made in the Anatoxin-a
Primer, and I hereby retract it in full.

Jan the Accuser said:

SHOW US,SHOW US, SHOW US.

Are you just pretending to be STUPID?

You claimed I lied.

I claim that ANY STATEMENT made by me about
Cell Tech or their algae that you could choose to post
as an example of one of these LIES would OBVIOUSLY
not be a LIE.

YOU are the one making the claim I lied.

It is YOUR responsibility to back up that claim
with an example.

But you don't want to be pinned down to any one statement,
because you KNOW that would make it obvious you
have made a FALSE accusation.

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If it was OBVIOUS, you would have posted it long ago, post the original,
show us the exact words.

If I chose an example, you would claim the LIE was
some other statement.

You would try anything to weasel out of being pinned down
to any specific statement.

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You can't, youR lies and *claims* have caught up with you.

No, it hasn't. I claim that ANY statement I made about
the algae is OBVIOUSLY not a LIE. That claim stands.
You have been UNABLE to disprove it.

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You are insane not to show us the ORIGINAL *IF* it OBVIOUSLY shows
you did not lie.

YOU are the one claiming that I told a LIE.
But you won't post any ORIGINAL STATEMENT from me
which is a LIE.

Because you CAN'T.

ANY STATEMENT of mine about Cell Tech or their algae
you could choose to post would OBVIOUSLY not be a LIE.

If you disagree with that, then post one of these LIES
you claim I told.

You won't do that, because then it would be OBVIOUS
to everybody that you made a FALSE ACCUSATION
against me when you claimed I lied.

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If it showed that I lied, and everybody would know, you would have
posted it long ago.

The end.

Jan

I've done it, several times. I've posted one (of many) examples
of an ORIGINAL STATEMENT made by you which is a LIE.
(See below.)

To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-m01.aol.com

Jan said:

Quoted message said:

From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]

Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to discredit
you by making insinuations about who you are or what your
motives may be.

Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.

That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have NEVER accused

anyone of

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any such thing.

So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!

You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid shills -----

Whatever organized medicine says is swallowed hook line and sinker
by the shill EGO handicapped debunkers who are brainwashed.

Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing starts. Mostly
comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names when in fact
he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his own people.