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  1. You are correct in that so many people claim to be experts but do not explain the physiology - that
    is, exactly what milk will do to you when it gets inside your body. You need to answer a question -
    what do you mean by "milk?" I would not drink homogenized/pasteurized milk because the proteins get
    damaged and the cholesterol will get oxidized. Add to that a recent study about a sugar in
    cow/lamb/pork products (more so in the meat than the dairy, I think) that provoke an inflammatory
    response (which is greatly magnified by oxidized cholesterol and people on diets high in unsaturated
    fatty acids), and you've got a disaster on your hands, or all over your body, actually. I eat a
    Metagenics whey powder, organic butter (sincer there is no protein to be damaged and it is not
    homogenized), and raw goat milk cheese (aged 60+ days to make sure nasty germs don't get you). Get
    your own goats if you can - that's what I would do if it was feasible. Right now, you are really
    playing with fire, which may be compounded by other foods in your diet, such as vegetable-based oils
    (though coconut and palm are great - get unrefined, though). You can make a grain yogurt with the
    whey powder and any grain you like - you just store it in a sealed jar (at room temperature) a few
    days after cooking and letting it get cool, then refrigerate and it lasts quite a long time. Just
    don't use more than a couple tablespoons per meal due to lactic acid content.

    Good luck!

  2. On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:46:40 -0400, "nick" <[email hidden]> posted:

    Quoted message said:

    You are correct in that so many people claim to be experts but do not explain the physiology -
    that is, exactly what milk will do to you when it gets inside your body. You need to answer a
    question - what do you mean by "milk?" I would not drink homogenized/pasteurized milk because the
    proteins get damaged and the cholesterol will get oxidized. Add to that a recent study about a
    sugar in cow/lamb/pork products (more so in the meat than the dairy, I think) that provoke an
    inflammatory response (which is greatly magnified by oxidized cholesterol and people on diets
    high in unsaturated fatty acids), and you've got a disaster on your hands, or all over your body,
    actually. I eat a Metagenics whey powder, organic butter (sincer there is no protein to be
    damaged and it is not homogenized), and raw goat milk cheese (aged 60+ days to make sure nasty
    germs don't get you). Get your own goats if you can - that's what I would do if it was feasible.
    Right now, you are really playing with fire, which may be compounded by other foods in your diet,
    such as vegetable-based oils (though coconut and palm are great - get unrefined, though). You can
    make a grain yogurt with the whey powder and any grain you like - you just store it in a sealed
    jar (at room temperature) a few days after cooking and letting it get cool, then refrigerate and
    it lasts quite a long time. Just don't use more than a couple tablespoons per meal due to lactic
    acid content.

    Good luck!

    What a loon. What is wrong with lactic acid? Whey powder will have damaged protein, as if that
    matters. WTF do you think happens to protein in the gut? Not just damaged, totally rooted! Butter
    should be avoided at all costs. Too many calories, that's all. And too much salt.

    Anyway, why should anyone take any notice of a loon who still can't post properly to Usenet. Try
    reading this post in a Thread.

  3. Metagenics whey powder uses a process that does not damage/danature the protein - you might have
    looked into this before you made a fool of yourself, again, and as usual. I eat plenty of butter,
    which has no salt and is cultured, and am thin as a rail and about 40 years old. Too much lactic
    acid will damage mitochondria, amongst other things. Protein can be "natural," danatured, or
    damaged. You don't seem to know the difference, but that's no surprise, of course. Calling people
    "loons" is very scientific, moosh - too bad you don't have any studies to support your claims, but I
    guess you feel that that would be "unscientific," right?

    moosh posted:

    "On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:46:40 -0400, "nick" <[email hidden]> posted:

    Quoted message said:

    You are correct in that so many people claim to be experts but do not explain the physiology - that
    is, exactly what milk will do to you when it gets inside your body. You need to answer a question -
    what do you mean by "milk?" I would not drink homogenized/pasteurized milk because the


    proteins

    Quoted message said:

    get damaged and the cholesterol will get oxidized. Add to that a recent study about a sugar in
    cow/lamb/pork products (more so in the meat than the dairy, I think) that provoke an inflammatory
    response (which is greatly magnified by oxidized cholesterol and people on diets high in
    unsaturated fatty acids), and you've got a disaster on your hands, or all over your body, actually.
    I eat a Metagenics whey powder, organic butter (sincer there is no protein to be damaged and it is
    not homogenized), and raw goat milk cheese (aged 60+ days to make sure nasty germs don't get you).
    Get your own goats if you can - that's what I would do if it was feasible. Right now, you are
    really playing with fire, which may be compounded by other foods in your diet, such as
    vegetable-based oils (though coconut and palm are great - get unrefined, though). You can make a
    grain yogurt with the whey powder and any grain you like - you just store it in a sealed jar (at
    room temperature) a few days after cooking and letting it get cool,


    then

    Quoted message said:

    refrigerate and it lasts quite a long time. Just don't use more than a couple tablespoons per meal
    due to lactic acid content.

    Good luck!

    What a loon. What is wrong with lactic acid? Whey powder will have damaged protein, as if that
    matters. WTF do you think happens to protein in the gut? Not just damaged, totally rooted! Butter
    should be avoided at all costs. Too many calories, that's all. And too much salt.

    Anyway, why should anyone take any notice of a loon who still can't post properly to Usenet. Try
    reading this post in a Thread."

  4. On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:56:56 -0400, "nick" <[email hidden]> posted:

    Quoted message said:

    Metagenics whey powder uses a process that does not damage/danature the protein - you might have
    looked into this before you made a fool of yourself, again, and as usual.

    And what does their drying process consist of? As the gut chops up proteins with a vengeance, I'm
    wondering why you would bother. Your lack of posting nous makes you a fool every time you post.

    Quoted message said:

    I eat plenty of butter, which has no salt and is cultured, and am thin as a rail and about 40
    years old.

    Seems a strange nauseous thing to eat lots of. Why on Earth would you want to, unless you were
    satisfying an obsession?

    Quoted message said:

    Too much lactic acid will damage mitochondria, amongst other things.

    Mitochondria in the stomach?

    Quoted message said:

    Protein can be "natural," danatured, or damaged.

    And the gut damages them all! What is "unnatural" protein? What do you think the digestive proteases
    do to all proteins?

    Quoted message said:

    You don't seem to know the difference, but that's no surprise, of course. Calling people "loons" is
    very scientific, moosh - too bad you don't have any studies to support your claims,

    Claims that you can't post to useNet properly? That's plain to everyone. Just note the two "Re"
    prefixes above. That's scientific?

    Quoted message said:

    but I guess you feel that that would be "unscientific," right?

    You are obsessed with studies that have significance in the broad scheme of things from negative to
    fairly positive. You certainly can't discriminate. You appear to trawl the literature for key words
    relevant to your present obsession. Please post properly.

    Quoted message said:


    moosh posted:

    "On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:46:40 -0400, "nick" <[email hidden]> posted:

    Quoted message said:

    You are correct in that so many people claim to be experts but do not explain the physiology -
    that is, exactly what milk will do to you when it gets inside your body. You need to answer a
    question - what do you mean by "milk?" I would not drink homogenized/pasteurized milk because the


    proteins

    Quoted message said:

    get damaged and the cholesterol will get oxidized. Add to that a recent study about a sugar in
    cow/lamb/pork products (more so in the meat than the dairy, I think) that provoke an inflammatory
    response (which is greatly magnified by oxidized cholesterol and people on diets high in
    unsaturated fatty acids), and you've got a disaster on your hands, or all over your body,
    actually. I eat a Metagenics whey powder, organic butter (sincer there is no protein to be damaged
    and it is not homogenized), and raw goat milk cheese (aged 60+ days to make sure nasty germs don't
    get you). Get your own goats if you can - that's what I would do if it was feasible. Right now,
    you are really playing with fire, which may be compounded by other foods in your diet, such as
    vegetable-based oils (though coconut and palm are great - get unrefined, though). You can make a
    grain yogurt with the whey powder and any grain you like - you just store it in a sealed jar (at
    room temperature) a few days after cooking and letting it get cool,


    then

    Quoted message said:

    refrigerate and it lasts quite a long time. Just don't use more than a couple tablespoons per meal
    due to lactic acid content.

    Good luck!

    What a loon. What is wrong with lactic acid? Whey powder will have damaged protein, as if that
    matters. WTF do you think happens to protein in the gut? Not just damaged, totally rooted! Butter
    should be avoided at all costs. Too many calories, that's all. And too much salt.

    Anyway, why should anyone take any notice of a loon who still can't post properly to Usenet. Try
    reading this post in a Thread."

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