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  1. "The problem is... people don't usually know the weight of their food
    *after* cooking...! ๐Ÿ™‚"

    The USDA could make it easier! Pick a nutrient that isn't affected by
    cooking - total protein in many cases - then use that to relate the
    USDA raw weight to their cooked weight of the same thing. Put raw
    weights and resulting cooked nutrients into your diet program.

    "Ok... would you allow some extra losses for ... freezing, cooking in
    too much water, overcooking, reheating, and so on...?"

    No, because I don't! (Note that the USDA lists data for frozen
    versions of many foods.)

    "According to "Linus Pauling" a much higher intake of vit C is
    recommendend than in ordinary diets, though... What do you reckon?"

    Pauling's main argument was that pure carnivore mammals like cats,
    that produce their own vitamin C, produce an amount equivalent to
    several grams/day for an adult human. But, I don't eat a carnivore's
    diet!

    I suspect that someone or other has recommended overdosing on just
    about every nutrient there is. Our bodies are mighty complex things,
    and I'm not happy with narrow-cast views of it.

  2. On 30 May 2005 17:01:26 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "The problem is... people don't usually know the weight of their food
    *after* cooking...! ๐Ÿ™‚"

    The USDA could make it easier! Pick a nutrient that isn't affected by
    cooking - total protein in many cases - then use that to relate the
    USDA raw weight to their cooked weight of the same thing.

    That's clever.

    Quoted message said:

    Put raw
    weights and resulting cooked nutrients into your diet program.

    What software did you use for your optimization routine, btw?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Ok... would you allow some extra losses for ... freezing, cooking in
    too much water, overcooking, reheating, and so on...?"

    No, because I don't! (Note that the USDA lists data for frozen
    versions of many foods.)

    Quoted message said:

    "According to "Linus Pauling" a much higher intake of vit C is
    recommendend than in ordinary diets, though... What do you reckon?"

    Pauling's main argument was that pure carnivore mammals like cats,
    that produce their own vitamin C, produce an amount equivalent to
    several grams/day for an adult human. But, I don't eat a carnivore's
    diet!

    I suspect that someone or other has recommended overdosing on just
    about every nutrient there is. Our bodies are mighty complex things,
    and I'm not happy with narrow-cast views of it.

    I supplement with Iron and vitamin C as my doctor suggested that, to help
    with iron deficiency (both my ferritin and sideremy levels are low).
    I was told Vit C pills (especially the slow release type) help with iron
    absorption, and that lemon juice on green leaves helps as well. Then, I am
    trying to eat some more red meat and beans than I used to, for the iron.

    I also wonder if taking some fish oil pills might be a good idea, as it's
    not that easy to reach the recommended intake of Omega-3 FAs, even being a
    fish eater as I am! ๐Ÿ™‚ Mercury pollution in fish and fish oil, and quality
    fish oil pills prices ๐Ÿ˜‰ , are a concern too.

    --
    Enrico C
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