Re: Multi-sport, all-around jacket/shell?

In article <[email hidden]>, Donovan Rebbechi

Quoted message said:

(*) A good jacket will probably cost you more than $40-

I'm willing to pay more. I just couldn't remember the official name
for the jacket I have.

Here it is, the PerformanceBike Nanaimo jacket. A design that is
nearly good enough for me, unfortunately built from of a heavy duty
plastic bag:
http://www.performancebike.com/product_images/400/10_2755.jpg

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=14598&subcategory_ID
=1130

I'm mentioning it for an example of a structural design that I prefer.
If I could make my own uninsulated jacket, it would have the same
structural features as the Nanaimo.

Quoted message said:

(*) There's a tradeoff between waterproof and breathable

Let me then state what I need as a *windproof*, breathable,
water-resistant jacket with drop-tail, pit-zips, and removable hood.

Quoted message said:

(*) Most brands that sell running clothes market to cyclists, so most
of the jackets have a drop-tail. Clothes made by Pearl Izumi and Sugoi
are usually cyclist-friendly.

Unfortunately most of the ones I can find have either no hood, or a
permanently attached hood.

Quoted message said:

(*) A removable hood (or for that matter any hood) will narrow the field
considerably, very few jackets have this (runners generally wear a removable
hat when it's cold).

Yes, but I figure that if something were available, it would be popular
enough that more than a few people would have one and someone could
tell me what it was. Hence my asking about it. I figure that if a
runner or cyclist did want a jacket with a hood, they would want it
even more if the hood was removable since it would offer options.

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PCB said:

Quoted message said:

(*) There's a tradeoff between waterproof and breathable

Let me then state what I need as a *windproof*, breathable,
water-resistant jacket with drop-tail, pit-zips, and removable hood.

Plenty with all those features except the hood.

Quoted message said:

Unfortunately most of the ones I can find have either no hood, or a
permanently attached hood.

Right.

Quoted message said:

Yes, but I figure that if something were available, it would be popular
enough that more than a few people would have one and someone could
tell me what it was. Hence my asking about it. I figure that if a
runner or cyclist did want a jacket with a hood, they would want it
even more if the hood was removable since it would offer options.

Most don't want one with a hood. Most runners wear hats, which are removable.

If you're looking for jackets with hoods, brands like Marmot, Mountain
Hardwear, etc -- hiking/ski/outdoor brands, are more likely to have hoods.
The better ones should have some way to keep the hood out the way when it's not
needed (for example, the precip jacket hood rolls up and is held in place with
a velcro attachment)

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Mountain Equipment Coop sells what you need. Go to www.mec.ca and
search for the "Zik" cycling jacket. Gore-Tex XCR, zip-off hood.
Doesn't say pit zips in the description but I think I see them in the
picture. If that jacket doesn't suit, MEC has a ton of other
well-designed, reasonably priced products. Unless you catch a closeout
sale of high end gear like Marmot, you'll never get better value for
money than MEC equipment.

Here's a direct link, it's awful long so watch that you get it all:
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=668663&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=782085&bmUID=1095874434918

Neil