Re: Mexicans Have Plans for the American Southwest



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paul

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NerdRevenge wrote:
> http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-text/aztlan.html
>
>
> Our southern neighbor is not shy about expressing its intention to

conquer
> the American Southwest, which Mexico regards as territory lost in the

Treaty
> of Guadalupe Hildalgo in 1846. Mexican children are taught in school

that
> the United States stole that land, which they call "Aztlan." Absurd

rantings
> of political extremists? Consider.
>
> . In 1997, then-President Zedillo proclaimed that "I have proudly

affirmed
> that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its
> borders."
>
> . Mexican American Legal Defense Fund founder Mario Obledo stated,
> "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like

it
> should leave. Every constitutional office in California is going to

be held
> by Hispanics in the next 20 years." People who don't like such

demographic
> changes "should go back to Europe." (Incidentally, Mr. Obledo was

also the
> California Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Gov.

Jerry
> Brown.)
>
> . Mexico's President Fox has been unrelenting in his brazen demands

on the
> United States, starting with open borders even before he was elected.

He has
> called for the border to be "a joining line." His visits to the U.S.

have
> been filled with endless requirements for Mexican citizens illegally

in this
> country - free healthcare, taxpayer-subsidized in-state tuition for

illegals
> at state colleges and universities, guestworker programs and amnesty

for
> all.
>
> Incidentally, we shouldn't be surprised at such shenanigans. The

world is
> full of revanchist fantasies, namely that some vague territorial

claim from
> centuries before should form modern national boundaries. The Chinese

invaded
> Tibet in 1949, with the excuse that an eighth-century marriage had

made
> Tibet a part of China. (Is there a Chinese word for lebensraum?)

Chinese
> flowing into Siberia argue that the Amur region is actually part of

China.
> (More on the Chinese demographic invasion of Russia.) The Balkans

have been
> a recent example of the power of warmed-over nationalism, when

Milosovic
> whipped Serbs into a murderous frenzy by summoning the ghosts of the

Battle
> of Kosovo (600 years ago) as he urged them to "take back" what had

been
> stolen from them. In the case of the former Yugoslavia, revanchism

was the
> excuse for genocide.
>
> Encouraged by their leaders in both countries, the 20 million

Mexicans in
> America are similarly emboldened to insist that the United States

surrender
> to their demands, particularly amnesty which will speed the

acquisition of
> political power. And when California becomes majority Mexican around

2028,
> will those people call for political unification with their cultural
> homeland? Their leaders are planning for such a scenario.
>
> It's hard to fathom how America's elected Congressional leaders,

those who
> swore to uphold the Constitution and to protect the nation, are

prepared to
> give it away for some perceived short-term political gain, if that.

The
> front man for globalist corporations who currently occupies the White

House
> is allowing Mexico City to dictate America's immigration policy,

while few
> in his party object. Does anyone think that Vicente Fox cares about

what
> happens to America? He sees the United States as a full refrigerator

and he
> is hungry, very hungry...................


How about bringing some of those troops back from Iraq and using them
to assist law enforcement on our southern border?
Paul

http://www.projectusa.org/
 
"paul" <[email protected]> wrote
> How about bringing some of those troops back from Iraq and using them
> to assist law enforcement on our southern border?


Silly rule about not using the Army for domestic law enforcement.
And it isn't 'Mexico'; it's everything South of El Paso. The majority I see
now are Central and South American. You can tell by the restaurants- they
used to be 'Upper' Mexican menu, then more 'Southern', now its' Salvadorian,
Costa Rican, Bolivian, Peruvian,...... You can tell by who they advertise
the money transfers to; same countries.
Lots of East Africans coming in now- Sudan, Ethiopia/Eritrea; opening
restaurants, grocery stores and hair braiding places- taxi drivers.

Chas
 
You've got it all wrong. According to some White Supremacist groups, there
have been several divisions of Chinese troops, with armor, in Mexico
preparing to invade the US for at least a decade.

"paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> NerdRevenge wrote:
>> http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-text/aztlan.html
>>
>>
>> Our southern neighbor is not shy about expressing its intention to

> conquer
>> the American Southwest, which Mexico regards as territory lost in the

> Treaty
>> of Guadalupe Hildalgo in 1846. Mexican children are taught in school

> that
>> the United States stole that land, which they call "Aztlan." Absurd

> rantings
>> of political extremists? Consider.
>>
>> . In 1997, then-President Zedillo proclaimed that "I have proudly

> affirmed
>> that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its
>> borders."
>>
>> . Mexican American Legal Defense Fund founder Mario Obledo stated,
>> "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like

> it
>> should leave. Every constitutional office in California is going to

> be held
>> by Hispanics in the next 20 years." People who don't like such

> demographic
>> changes "should go back to Europe." (Incidentally, Mr. Obledo was

> also the
>> California Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Gov.

> Jerry
>> Brown.)
>>
>> . Mexico's President Fox has been unrelenting in his brazen demands

> on the
>> United States, starting with open borders even before he was elected.

> He has
>> called for the border to be "a joining line." His visits to the U.S.

> have
>> been filled with endless requirements for Mexican citizens illegally

> in this
>> country - free healthcare, taxpayer-subsidized in-state tuition for

> illegals
>> at state colleges and universities, guestworker programs and amnesty

> for
>> all.
>>
>> Incidentally, we shouldn't be surprised at such shenanigans. The

> world is
>> full of revanchist fantasies, namely that some vague territorial

> claim from
>> centuries before should form modern national boundaries. The Chinese

> invaded
>> Tibet in 1949, with the excuse that an eighth-century marriage had

> made
>> Tibet a part of China. (Is there a Chinese word for lebensraum?)

> Chinese
>> flowing into Siberia argue that the Amur region is actually part of

> China.
>> (More on the Chinese demographic invasion of Russia.) The Balkans

> have been
>> a recent example of the power of warmed-over nationalism, when

> Milosovic
>> whipped Serbs into a murderous frenzy by summoning the ghosts of the

> Battle
>> of Kosovo (600 years ago) as he urged them to "take back" what had

> been
>> stolen from them. In the case of the former Yugoslavia, revanchism

> was the
>> excuse for genocide.
>>
>> Encouraged by their leaders in both countries, the 20 million

> Mexicans in
>> America are similarly emboldened to insist that the United States

> surrender
>> to their demands, particularly amnesty which will speed the

> acquisition of
>> political power. And when California becomes majority Mexican around

> 2028,
>> will those people call for political unification with their cultural
>> homeland? Their leaders are planning for such a scenario.
>>
>> It's hard to fathom how America's elected Congressional leaders,

> those who
>> swore to uphold the Constitution and to protect the nation, are

> prepared to
>> give it away for some perceived short-term political gain, if that.

> The
>> front man for globalist corporations who currently occupies the White

> House
>> is allowing Mexico City to dictate America's immigration policy,

> while few
>> in his party object. Does anyone think that Vicente Fox cares about

> what
>> happens to America? He sees the United States as a full refrigerator

> and he
>> is hungry, very hungry...................

>
> How about bringing some of those troops back from Iraq and using them
> to assist law enforcement on our southern border?
> Paul
>
> http://www.projectusa.org/
>
 
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:35:39 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>You've got it all wrong. According to some White Supremacist groups, there
>have been several divisions of Chinese troops, with armor, in Mexico
>preparing to invade the US for at least a decade.


They're slow in organizing because they have to farm and grow their
own food. Then they found out they could make more money by growing
drugs. The whole invasion thing has gone to pot.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
 
"Curtis L. Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:35:39 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>You've got it all wrong. According to some White Supremacist groups,
>>there
>>have been several divisions of Chinese troops, with armor, in Mexico
>>preparing to invade the US for at least a decade.

>
> They're slow in organizing because they have to farm and grow their
> own food. Then they found out they could make more money by growing
> drugs. The whole invasion thing has gone to pot.


That does explain why they haven't attacked. Useful information. Who says
rbr has gone down the toilet?
 
"B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> . In 1997, then-President Zedillo proclaimed that "I have proudly

> > affirmed
> >> that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its
> >> borders."
> >>
> >> . Mexican American Legal Defense Fund founder Mario Obledo stated,
> >> "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like

> > it
> >> should leave. Every constitutional office in California is going to

> > be held
> >> by Hispanics in the next 20 years." People who don't like such

> > demographic
> >> changes "should go back to Europe."


Spain is also a European country, no?
 
"Chas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "paul" <[email protected]> wrote
> > How about bringing some of those troops back from Iraq and using them
> > to assist law enforcement on our southern border?

>
> Silly rule about not using the Army for domestic law enforcement.
> And it isn't 'Mexico'; it's everything South of El Paso. The majority I

see
> now are Central and South American. You can tell by the restaurants- they
> used to be 'Upper' Mexican menu, then more 'Southern', now its'

Salvadorian,
> Costa Rican, Bolivian, Peruvian,...... You can tell by who they advertise
> the money transfers to; same countries.
> Lots of East Africans coming in now- Sudan, Ethiopia/Eritrea; opening
> restaurants, grocery stores and hair braiding places- taxi drivers.
>
> Chas


Hi,

So why do so many Americans complain about "sending all those jobs abroad"?

I have seen protesters with signs about how 25 million US jobs have gone to
places like Mexico, central and south America, China etc. But we don't have
that many Americans who want a job. Do the protesters want to import
workers to do those 25 million jobs?

I say better to send the jobs to the workers than to have more foreign
workers come here for the jobs.

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"Jim Blair" <[email protected]> wrote
> So why do so many Americans complain about "sending all those jobs
> abroad"?


We have 13 million young, strong, highly motivated entry level illegal
aliens. The jobs that used to go to Americans now go to them.
We have hundreds of thousands of high-tech jobs going to the cream of a
population of a billion people; India, Malaysia, China.
The squeeze is on.

Chas
 
Jim Blair wrote:
>


> So why do so many Americans complain about "sending all those jobs abroad"?


Because all animals are equal, only some are more equal than others.

Fair living wages for all unless your fair living wages are mine.

Doublespeak.
 
"gwhite" <[email protected]> wrote
>> So why do so many Americans complain about "sending all those jobs
>> abroad"?

> Because all animals are equal, only some are more equal than others.


Yes; six billion people on Earth- we pay special attention to our 300
million.
Good plan.

> Fair living wages for all unless your fair living wages are mine.


We're under no obligation to give away our creamy jobs to foreigners. It's
the decision of the corporations, so put the blame where it belongs.
For them, you're the bottom line.

Chas
 
Jim Blair wrote:

>
> "Chas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "paul" <[email protected]> wrote
>> > How about bringing some of those troops back from Iraq and using them
>> > to assist law enforcement on our southern border?

>>
>> Silly rule about not using the Army for domestic law enforcement.
>> And it isn't 'Mexico'; it's everything South of El Paso. The majority I

> see
>> now are Central and South American. You can tell by the restaurants- they
>> used to be 'Upper' Mexican menu, then more 'Southern', now its'

> Salvadorian,
>> Costa Rican, Bolivian, Peruvian,...... You can tell by who they advertise
>> the money transfers to; same countries.
>> Lots of East Africans coming in now- Sudan, Ethiopia/Eritrea; opening
>> restaurants, grocery stores and hair braiding places- taxi drivers.
>>
>> Chas

>
> Hi,
>
> So why do so many Americans complain about "sending all those jobs
> abroad"?
>
> I have seen protesters with signs about how 25 million US jobs have gone
> to places like Mexico, central and south America, China etc. But we don't
> have
> that many Americans who want a job. Do the protesters want to import
> workers to do those 25 million jobs?
>
> I say better to send the jobs to the workers than to have more foreign
> workers come here for the jobs.
>


We have an impostor here: The Blair impostor has posted something that
makes half sense. The real Blair posts stuff that makes _no_ sense.
Now all the impostor has to do is to figure out how to spread this
relief from drudgery more equitably among the people here in the USA. Hint:
How bout Single Payer National Catastrophic Health Insurance and the
total repeal of the FICA tax while leaving benefits untouched. Instead
of spending dollars on wars wherever we can drum one up so as to
support Der Fuhrer we might use our money (our our debt) a little more
wisely.

--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of society but
the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough
to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy
is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson. http://GreaterVoice.org
 
"cicero" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%[email protected]...
> > >>
> > >> . In 1997, then-President Zedillo proclaimed that "I have proudly
> > > affirmed
> > >> that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its
> > >> borders."
> > >>
> > >> . Mexican American Legal Defense Fund founder Mario Obledo stated,
> > >> "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like
> > > it
> > >> should leave. Every constitutional office in California is going to
> > > be held
> > >> by Hispanics in the next 20 years." People who don't like such
> > > demographic
> > >> changes "should go back to Europe."

>
> Spain is also a European country, no?
>

But "Hispanic" doesn't mean someone is a Spaniard. Most "Hispanics" are
Indians or Mestizos. The caucasian Hispanics are the ones with money and
power in their countries, and they're not the ones sneaking into the US.
 
Gooserider wrote:
> But "Hispanic" doesn't mean someone is a Spaniard. Most "Hispanics" are
> Indians or Mestizos. The caucasian Hispanics are the ones with money and
> power in their countries, and they're not the ones sneaking into the US.


Correct. It is the dark, greasy and not quite clean ones that are coming in.

Do you know why there is so much oil in the Gulf of Mexico? Answer: The
Mexican bathe in the Gulf.

Bob Kolker
 
>From: "robert j. kolker" [email protected]

>Correct. It is the dark, greasy and not quite clean ones that are coming in.
>
>Do you know why there is so much oil in the Gulf of Mexico? Answer: The
>Mexican bathe in the Gulf.
>
>Bob Kolker
>
>


Take this racist ******** somewhere else.
Bill C
 
"robert j. kolker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Gooserider wrote:
> > But "Hispanic" doesn't mean someone is a Spaniard. Most "Hispanics" are
> > Indians or Mestizos. The caucasian Hispanics are the ones with money and
> > power in their countries, and they're not the ones sneaking into the US.

>
> Correct. It is the dark, greasy and not quite clean ones that are coming

in.

Ever watch Univision or Telemundo? Except for the language, you would think
you're watching American TV. It's full of blonde blue eyed people. Is
Hispanic society that prejudiced?

> Do you know why there is so much oil in the Gulf of Mexico? Answer: The
> Mexican bathe in the Gulf.
>

Hey that's unnecessary....
 
"Gooserider" <[email protected]> wrote in message >>
>> Gooserider wrote:
>> > But "Hispanic" doesn't mean someone is a Spaniard. Most "Hispanics" are
>> > Indians or Mestizos. The caucasian Hispanics are the ones with money
>> > and
>> > power in their countries, and they're not the ones sneaking into the
>> > US.

>>
>> Correct. It is the dark, greasy and not quite clean ones that are coming

> in.
>
> Ever watch Univision or Telemundo? Except for the language, you would
> think
> you're watching American TV. It's full of blonde blue eyed people. Is
> Hispanic society that prejudiced?
>


Every facet of society has it's prejudices.
 
Oh, don't worry too much about it. There is a good chance that within
this century the US, Mexico and Canada will fuse into a single, 92
state country :)
 
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> Oh, don't worry too much about it. There is a good chance that within
> this century the US, Mexico and Canada will fuse into a single, 92
> state country :)


There is a much better chance that pigs will fly.