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Re: kidney disease / iron

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  1. This does not support your iron causes all disease thesis, it says if iron
    gets too high in kidney disease consider not using iron supplements,
    kidney disease sometimes causes iron leveles too low, they say nothing
    about iron causing kidney disease.

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    Semin Dial. 2004 Sep-Oct;17(5):336-41. Links

    Serum ferritin in chronic kidney disease: reconsidering the upper limit for
    iron treatment.

    Fishbane S, Kalantar-Zadeh K, Nissenson AR.

    Department of Medicine, Winthrop-University Hospital, Mineola, New York.

    ABSTRACT Intravenous iron treatment in hemodialysis patients improves the
    response to recombinant human erythropoietin (rHuEPO) and facilitates
    achievement of targets for hemoglobin and hematocrit. Excessive treatment,
    however, could expose patients to risks related to iron overload and oxidative
    stress. Therefore international treatment guidelines generally recommend that
    intravenous iron be discontinued when serum ferritin is greater than 500-1000
    ng/ml. In this article we explore the relevant issues that inform the decisions
    as to what levels of serum ferritin are used as the upper limit for treatment.
    We conclude that the current published literature is inadequate for developing
    evidence-based guidelines. Clinical judgment is critical to properly weigh the
    risks and benefits of intravenous iron treatment in the context of the
    individual patient.

    PMID: 15461737 [PubMed - in process]

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    Quoted message said:


    This does not support your iron causes all disease thesis, it says if iron
    gets too high in kidney disease consider not using iron supplements,
    kidney disease sometimes causes iron leveles too low, they say nothing
    about iron causing kidney disease.

    Kidney - urine - yellow - Tom - iron.
    There's the connetion !

  3. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    This does not support your iron causes all disease thesis, it says if iron
    gets too high in kidney disease consider not using iron supplements,
    kidney disease sometimes causes iron leveles too low, they say nothing
    about iron causing kidney disease.

    I try to ignore this most of the time but it is getting a bit
    ridiculous. I think he only continues to post this stuff because you
    continue to respond. You could try not responding.

  4. "Wolfbrother" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This does not support your iron causes all disease thesis, it says


    if iron

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    gets too high in kidney disease consider not using iron


    supplements,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kidney disease sometimes causes iron leveles too low, they say


    nothing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about iron causing kidney disease.

    I try to ignore this most of the time but it is getting a bit
    ridiculous. I think he only continues to post this stuff because


    you

    Quoted message said:

    continue to respond. You could try not responding.

    Maybe Doe is building a case for harassment?...

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: kidney disease / iron
    From: [email hidden]
    Date: 10/6/2004 10:35 AM Mountain Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Semin Dial. 2004 Sep-Oct;17(5):336-41. Links

    Serum ferritin in chronic kidney disease: reconsidering the upper limit for
    iron treatment.

    Fishbane S, Kalantar-Zadeh K, Nissenson AR.

    Department of Medicine, Winthrop-University Hospital, Mineola, New York.

    ABSTRACT Intravenous iron treatment in hemodialysis patients improves the
    response to recombinant human erythropoietin (rHuEPO) and facilitates
    achievement of targets for hemoglobin and hematocrit. Excessive treatment,
    however, could expose patients to risks related to iron overload and


    oxidative

    Quoted message said:

    stress. Therefore international treatment guidelines generally recommend


    that

    Quoted message said:

    intravenous iron be discontinued when serum ferritin is greater than


    500-1000

    Quoted message said:

    ng/ml. In this article we explore the relevant issues that inform the


    decisions

    Quoted message said:

    as to what levels of serum ferritin are used as the upper limit for


    treatment.

    Quoted message said:

    We conclude that the current published literature is inadequate for


    developing

    Quoted message said:

    evidence-based guidelines. Clinical judgment is critical to properly weigh


    the

    Quoted message said:

    risks and benefits of intravenous iron treatment in the context of the
    individual patient.

    PMID: 15461737 [PubMed - in process]

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------

    Who loves ya.
    Tom

    Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
    Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
    DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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