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Re: John Bickmore asking for help with a very difficult problem

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    Scott said:

    John, I'm not sure I'm following you. You say you were born on a US
    Army base in the US. But, were you the child of citizens of some
    other country? I only ask because if your parents were US citizens,
    then the fact that you were born on an Army base is irrelevant. If
    you're a citizen, you're a citizen. They can't make YOU leave no
    matter what your wife's status is, and your children are citizens,
    too, so long as YOU are a citizen, assuming they were born in the US.

    I think the original army base comment was just
    John trying to emphasize his patriotic bona fides.

    Of course they can't deport him. And if he's a
    citizen, his children are citizens, whether they
    were born in the US or not. But what does
    that matter if they deport his wife? In today's
    society, it's not considered normal to just wave
    goodbye to your wife or mother as she's deported,
    so as a practical matter he and the kids would
    have to try to emigrate to Canadia.

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    Of course, you could just tell 'em you messed up in the original
    application and your wife is actually Mexican.

    Dream on. If you and your friends haven't had to
    deal with the walking screwup that is ICE, be happy.
    They are entirely capable of penalizing you for
    trying to do the right thing.

    Ben

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  2. SLAVE of THE STATE
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    On May 1, 3:23 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I think the original army base comment was just
    John trying to emphasize his patriotic bona fides.

    You are probably correct.

    Can you post a link to the www.schwartzsoft.com page where you are
    getting all these interpreters? Both myself and Amit could use them.

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  3. Robert Chung
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    On May 1, 3:23 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    And if he's a
    citizen, his children are citizens, whether they
    were born in the US or not.

    This is not true. If a child was born outside of the US then the
    father's marital status at the time of the child's birth, and his
    residency status prior to the birth, determines whether the child is a
    US citizen.

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  4. Robert Chung
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    Robert Chung said:

    On May 1, 3:23 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    And if he's a
    citizen, his children are citizens, whether they
    were born in the US or not.

    This is not true. If a child was born outside of the US then the
    father's marital status at the time of the child's birth, and his
    residency status prior to the birth, determines whether the child is a
    US citizen.

    The bottom line is, Bickmore needs both a lawyer and some leverage,
    and I'm not sure he's going to find either one here in rbr.

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  5. Email address hidden
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    Robert Chung said:

    On May 1, 3:23 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    And if he's a
    citizen, his children are citizens, whether they
    were born in the US or not.

    This is not true. If a child was born outside of the US then the
    father's marital status at the time of the child's birth, and his
    residency status prior to the birth, determines whether the child is a
    US citizen.

    You are correct that I assumed too much. On reading the
    current law (since 1986) it appears that it depends on
    how many years the U.S. citizen parent has lived in the U.S.
    before the child's birth (I suspect that Bickmore meets
    the requirement). I didn't see where marital status
    entered into it, but you're likely much more familiar
    with this law than I am.

    http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-..html

    I agree that he needs expert intervention which RBR
    doesn't provide, although there has been some decent
    advice in the thread.

    Ben

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