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Re: Indian paradox

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  1. This question is getting alot of attention. In fact the jump in cvd and
    other chronic disease risk is found in those who move into or are living
    in an urban setting. It seems clear that the greater obesity and much
    more sedentary lifestyles found there are invloved at a fundimental level.
    Those who are not overweight and have lots of physical activity don't fit
    the higher risk profile. Here is a thumbnail pointer of the picture, in
    rural areas risk for metabolic syndrom is around 2 percent, in urban areas
    it is 12 percent; the amount of calories and the physical activity level
    being the most obvious differences and not the ratios of macro sources in
    the diet. Greater wealth is clearly a part of the picture in the urban
    setting. So the picture is familiar, obesity and lower physical activity
    are the case all over the world where risks are on the increase.

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    Well, we have French and Spanish paradox, what about Indian paradox?

    http://tinyurl.com/7yf6b

    "The anthropometry, lipid profile and dietary characteristics of 114
    patients with chronic ischaemic heart disease (IHD) were evaluated.

    "The mean dietary fat consumption was only 22% of total calories. Of
    this, SFA was 7.5%, MUFA was 7.5% and PUFA was 7%. Only 14% patients
    were consuming more than 30% percent calories in the form of fats. The
    mean cholesterol intake was only 31 mg/day. No patient was taking more
    than 200 mg of cholesterol per day. Only 7% of patients were consuming
    more than 100 mg/day of cholesterol. The daily fibre intake was 48 + 32
    grams.

    "The popular misconception that coronary atherosclerosis is a disease of
    affluence and indulgence, needs to be critically re-examined. Despite
    the lower body weights and higher prevalence of vegetarianism in India
    as compared to the West, coronary atherosclerosis is widely present in
    our country.

    Any plans to write "3 countries study" ? 🙂

    Mirek

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    Quoted message said:


    This question is getting alot of attention. In fact the jump in cvd


    and

    Quoted message said:

    other chronic disease risk is found in those who move into or are


    living

    Quoted message said:

    in an urban setting. It seems clear that the greater obesity and much
    more sedentary lifestyles found there are invloved at a fundimental


    level.

    Quoted message said:

    Those who are not overweight and have lots of physical activity don't


    fit

    Quoted message said:

    the higher risk profile. Here is a thumbnail pointer of the picture,


    in

    Quoted message said:

    rural areas risk for metabolic syndrom is around 2 percent, in urban


    areas

    Quoted message said:

    it is 12 percent; the amount of calories and the physical activity


    level

    Quoted message said:

    being the most obvious differences and not the ratios of macro sources


    in

    Quoted message said:

    the diet. Greater wealth is clearly a part of the picture in the


    urban

    Quoted message said:

    setting. So the picture is familiar, obesity and lower physical


    activity

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    are the case all over the world where risks are on the increase.

    Nice theory, but actually nothing like that was described in the
    article.

    You can elaborate all kinds of these as hoc hypothesis to explain
    everything.

    BTW, what about Spain? Does it mean they are moving to villages now and
    becoming more physically active? Corresponding acrticles are suggesting
    that obesity is on the rise in Spain, yet coronary is on decline.

    Mirek

  3. "Nice theory, but actually nothing like that was described in the
    article.

    You can elaborate all kinds of these as hoc hypothesis to explain
    everything."

    It was a summary of the reading of the several research studies on the
    topic of the increase of risk in india, none of my imagination at all.
    If you wish to follow up on your own, the medline and google search
    resources will find it for you, even the news accounts in the latter case.
    Alot of closely related research is being done looking at those s. asians
    who now live abroad to see how that change makes a difference and how risk
    factors change accordingly. No need to make up stuff when it is all over
    the place.

  4. What kind of researcher are you - throwing out numbers with absolutely
    no reference or source except to say:

    "If you wish to follow up on your own, the medline and google search
    resources will find it for you, even the news accounts in the latter
    case."

    Sorry, but I think this is pure garbage. As a scientist, I refuse to
    believe any of this data.

    Just plain supercilious.

    GT

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    Quoted message said:

    "Nice theory, but actually nothing like that was described in the
    article.

    You can elaborate all kinds of these as hoc hypothesis to explain
    everything."

    It was a summary of the reading of the several research studies on


    the

    Quoted message said:

    topic of the increase of risk in india, none of my imagination at


    all.

    Quoted message said:

    If you wish to follow up on your own, the medline and google search
    resources will find it for you, even the news accounts in the latter


    case.

    Quoted message said:

    Alot of closely related research is being done looking at those s.


    asians

    Quoted message said:

    who now live abroad to see how that change makes a difference and


    how risk

    Quoted message said:

    factors change accordingly. No need to make up stuff when it is all


    over

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    the place.

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