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Re: I was misled

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  1. Mark Hickey said:

    Ummmm, there was never a connection made by the White House between
    9/11 and Iraq, even if it's "common knowledge". Funny thing though,
    no one's been able to dredge up a single comment by Bush that supports
    their contention that he tried to make it.

    Er, how about here?

    http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?reposid=/multimedia/tds/headlines/8154.html

    Tiny url:

    http://tinyurl.com/2xqo3

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    R.

    <> Richard Brockie "Categorical statements
    <> The tall blond one. always cause trouble."
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  2. Richard Brockie said:
    Mark Hickey said:

    Ummmm, there was never a connection made by the White House between
    9/11 and Iraq, even if it's "common knowledge". Funny thing though,
    no one's been able to dredge up a single comment by Bush that supports
    their contention that he tried to make it.

    Er, how about here?

    http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?reposid=/multimedia/tds/headlines/8154.html

    Comedy Central? The "evidence" being Bush's statement that "when it
    comes to terrorism, you can't distinguish between Saddam and Al
    Qaeda"??? Wait... that means Saddam is linked to the USS Cole. To
    the problems in Northern Ireland, and to the guy who torched a bunch
    of SUVs in Arizona too, right?

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $695 ti frame

  3. Mark Hickey said:
    Richard Brockie said:

    http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?reposid=/multimedia/tds/headlines/8154.html

    Comedy Central?

    Yes. I find it a sorry state that holding a politician to statements
    they have made seems to be beyond the capability of a lot of the US
    media.

    Quoted message said:

    The "evidence" being Bush's statement that "when it
    comes to terrorism, you can't distinguish between Saddam and Al
    Qaeda"??? Wait... that means Saddam is linked to the USS Cole. To
    the problems in Northern Ireland, and to the guy who torched a bunch
    of SUVs in Arizona too, right?

    You begin to see the point. Bush was making a specific, politically
    expedient, inferrence given the events of September 2001 to justify
    forthcoming actions, ie: a linkage between Hussain and bin Laden.
    That inference was received by the American public as numerous recent
    polls have shown.

    As to Northern Ireland, a substantial part of the IRA's funding came
    from sources within the US, and, er... Lybia.

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    R.

    <> Richard Brockie "Categorical statements
    <> The tall blond one. always cause trouble."
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  4. Richard Brockie said:
    Mark Hickey said:
    Richard Brockie said:

    http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?reposid=/multimedia/tds/headlines/8154.html

    Comedy Central?

    Yes. I find it a sorry state that holding a politician to statements
    they have made seems to be beyond the capability of a lot of the US
    media.

    You're kidding, right? Like that hasn't been played over and over and
    over by the mainstream media?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The "evidence" being Bush's statement that "when it
    comes to terrorism, you can't distinguish between Saddam and Al
    Qaeda"??? Wait... that means Saddam is linked to the USS Cole. To
    the problems in Northern Ireland, and to the guy who torched a bunch
    of SUVs in Arizona too, right?

    You begin to see the point. Bush was making a specific, politically
    expedient, inferrence given the events of September 2001 to justify
    forthcoming actions, ie: a linkage between Hussain and bin Laden.
    That inference was received by the American public as numerous recent
    polls have shown.

    Think about this for a minute...

    We've seen the best attempts by the Bush-bashers to put up the
    "smoking gun quotes". They obviously failed miserably, and are now
    blaming it all on "inference", and evil mind control (first the
    president is an idiot, then he's an evil genius).

    The few comments that keep getting splashed across the TV screens come
    from the middle of lengthy speeches in which it's contextually obvious
    that Bush is NOT making a tie between 9/11 and Saddam. Not all that
    many people watch those speeches anyway - and are certainly NOT going
    to catch one comment and make the illogical leap being suggested.
    It's nonsensical to believe that Bush could "hypnotize" millions of
    people into believing something he didn't say in a few words.

    Even though most people weren't influenced by the speech itself, they
    DO see the evening news running over and over and over the same
    ground, making THEIR own inferneces, and playing the out of context
    sound bites that support their inferneces.

    Now who's really to blame for the result? Bush for possibly
    mentioning Saddam and 9/11 in the same sentence a couple times - or
    the media for trying to GIVE that impression?

    And if they weren't, how come the media doesn't continually play the
    (many) available sound bites of Bush saying "I never made any
    connection between 9/11 and Saddam"?

    Quoted message said:

    As to Northern Ireland, a substantial part of the IRA's funding came
    from sources within the US, and, er... Lybia.

    Indeed it did - a shameful thing, IMHO. Anyone who contributed to the
    terrorists in NI are no better than the Saudis who did the same when
    they financed Al Qaeda.

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $695 ti frame

  5. Mark Hickey replied:

    << >As to Northern Ireland, a substantial part of the IRA's funding came

    Quoted message said:

    from sources within the US, and, er... Lybia.

    Indeed it did - a shameful thing, IMHO. Anyone who contributed to the
    terrorists in NI are no better than the Saudis who did the same when
    they financed Al Qaeda. >>

    Or the Americans, when they financed death squads in
    Latin America?

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