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  1. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    For ZEE: Great News!
    For the reat of the world: Fribble.

    (Sorry for not trimming the crosspost.)

    L.

    (Zee) said:

    Your thoughts, gentlemen? Zee

    From Uffe Ravnskov MD PhD:

    An article published in QJM 2003:
    High cholesterol may protect against infections and atherosclerosis
    http://qjmed.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/full/96/12/927?ijkey=172mwKXqzgmtE&keytype=ref

    And a book excerpt on the same subject.
    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/benefits_cholest.htm#ravnskovome

    The benefits of high cholesterol

    By Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD

    People with high cholesterol live the longest. This statement seems so
    incredible that it takes a long time to clear one´s brainwashed mind
    to fully understand its importance. Yet the fact that people with high
    cholesterol live the longest emerges clearly from many scientific
    papers. Consider the finding of Dr. Harlan Krumholz of the Department
    of Cardiovascular Medicine at Yale University, who reported in 1994
    that old people with low cholesterol died twice as often from a heart
    attack as did old people with a high cholesterol.1 Supporters of the
    cholesterol campaign consistently ignore his observation, or consider
    it as a rare exception, produced by chance among a huge number of
    studies finding the opposite.

    But it is not an exception; there are now a large number of findings
    that contradict the lipid hypothesis. To be more specific, most
    studies of old people have shown that high cholesterol is not a risk
    factor for coronary heart disease. This was the result of my search in
    the Medline database for studies addressing that question.2Eleven
    studies of old people came up with that result, and a further seven
    studies found that high cholesterol did not predict all-cause
    mortality either.

    Now consider that more than 90 % of all cardiovascular disease is seen
    in people above age 60 also and that almost all studies have found
    that high cholesterol is not a risk factor for women.2 This means that
    high cholesterol is only a risk factor for less than 5 % of those who
    die from a heart attack.

    But there is more comfort for those who have high cholesterol; six of
    the studies found that total mortality was inversely associated with
    either total or LDL-cholesterol, or both. This means that it is
    actually much better to have high than to have low cholesterol if you
    want to live to be very old.

    High Cholesterol Protects Against Infection
    Many studies have found that low cholesterol is in certain respects
    worse than high cholesterol. For instance, in 19 large studies of more
    than 68,000 deaths, reviewed by Professor David R. Jacobs and his
    co-workers from the Division of Epidemiology at the University of
    Minnesota, low cholesterol predicted an increased risk of dying from
    gastrointestinal and respiratory diseases.3

    Most gastrointestinal and respiratory diseases have an infectious
    origin. Therefore, a relevant question is whether it is the infection
    that lowers cholesterol or the low cholesterol that predisposes to
    infection? To answer this question Professor Jacobs and his group,
    together with Dr. Carlos Iribarren, followed more than 100,000 healthy
    individuals in the San Francisco area for fifteen years. At the end of
    the study those who had low cholesterol at the start of the study had
    more often been admitted to the hospital because of an infectious
    disease.4,5 This finding cannot be explained away with the argument
    that the infection had caused cholesterol to go down, because how
    could low cholesterol, recorded when these people were without any
    evidence of infection, be caused by a disease they had not yet
    encountered? Isn´t it more likely that low cholesterol in some way
    made them more vulnerable to infection, or that high cholesterol
    protected those who did not become infected? Much evidence exists to
    support that interpretation.

    Low Cholesterol and HIV/AIDS
    Young, unmarried men with a previous sexually transmitted disease or
    liver disease run a much greater risk of becoming infected with HIV
    virus than other people. The Minnesota researchers, now led by Dr. Ami
    Claxton, followed such individuals for 7-8 years. After having
    excluded those who became HIV-positive during the first four years,
    they ended up with a group of 2446 men. At the end of the study, 140
    of these people tested positive for HIV; those who had low cholesterol
    at the beginning of the study were twice as likely to test postitive
    for HIV compared with those with the highest cholesterol.6

    Similar results come from a study of the MRFIT screenees, including
    more than 300,000 young and middle-aged men, which found that 16 years
    after the first cholesterol analysis the number of men whose
    cholesterol was lower than 160 and who had died from AIDS was four
    times higher than the number of men who had died from AIDS with a
    cholesterol above 240.7

    Cholesterol and Chronic Heart Failure
    Heart disease may lead to a weakening of the heart muscle. A weak
    heart means that less blood and therefore less oxygen is delivered to
    the arteries. To compensate for the decreased power, the heart beat
    goes up, but in severe heart failure this is not sufficient. Patients
    with severe heart failure become short of breath because too little
    oxygen is delivered to the tissues, the pressure in their veins
    increases because the heart cannot deliver the blood away from the
    heart with sufficient power, and they become edematous, meaning that
    fluid accumulates in the legs and in serious cases also in the lungs
    and other parts of the body. This condition is called congestive or
    chronic heart failure.

    There are many indications that bacteria or other microorganisms play
    an important role in chronic heart failure. For instance, patients
    with severe chronic heart failure have high levels of endotoxin and
    various types of cytokines in their blood. Endotoxin, also named
    lipopolysaccharide, is the most toxic substance produced by
    Gram-negative bacteria such as Escherichia coli, Klebsiella,
    Salmonella, Serratia and Pseudomonas. Cytokines are hormones secreted
    by white blood cells in their battle with microorganisms; high levels
    of cytokines in the blood indicate that inflammatory processes are
    going on somewhere in the body.

    The role of infections in chronic heart failure has been studied by
    Dr. Mathias Rauchhaus and his team at the Medical Department,
    Martin-Luther-University in Halle, Germany (Universitätsklinik und
    Poliklinik für Innere Medizin III, Martin-Luther-Universität, Halle).
    They found that the strongest predictor of death for patients with
    chronic heart failure was the concentration of cytokines in the blood,
    in particular in patients with heart failure due to coronary heart
    disease.8 To explain their finding they suggested that bacteria from
    the gut may more easily penetrate into the tissues when the pressure
    in the abdominal veins is increased because of heart failure. In
    accordance with this theory, they found more endotoxin in the blood of
    patients with congestive heart failure and edema than in patients with
    non-congestive heart failure without edema, and endotoxin
    concentrations decreased significantly when the heart's function was
    improved by medical treatment.9

    A simple way to test the functional state of the immune system is to
    inject antigens from microorganisms that most people have been exposed
    to, under the skin. If the immune system is normal, an induration
    (hard spot) will appear about 48 hours later at the place of the
    injection. If the induration is very small, with a diameter of less
    than a few millimeters, this indicates the presence of "anergy," a
    reduction in or failure of response to recognize antigens. In
    accordance, anergy has been found associated with an increased risk of
    infection and mortality in healthy elderly individuals, in surgical
    patients and in heart transplant patients.10

    Dr. Donna Vredevoe and her group from the School of Nursery and the
    School of Medicine, University of California at Los Angeles tested
    more than 200 patients with severe heart failure with five different
    antigens and followed them for twelve months. The cause of heart
    failure was coronary heart disease in half of them and other types of
    heart disease (such as congenital or infectious valvular heart
    disease, various cardiomyopathies and endocarditis) in the rest.
    Almost half of all the patients were anergic, and those who were
    anergic and had coronary heart disease had a much higher mortality
    than the rest.10

    Now to the salient point: to their surprise the researchers found that
    mortality was higher, not only in the patients with anergy, but also
    in the patients with the lowest lipid values, including total
    cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol and HDL-cholesterol as well as
    triglycerides.

    The latter finding was confirmed by Dr. Rauchhaus, this time in
    co-operation with researchers at several German and British university
    hospitals. They found that the risk of dying for patients with chronic
    heart failure was strongly and inversely associated with total
    cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol and also triglycerides; those with high
    lipid values lived much longer than those with low values.11,12

    Other researchers have made similar observations. The largest study
    has been performed by Professor Gregg C. Fonorow and his team at the
    UCLA Department of Medicine and Cardiomyopathy Center in Los
    Angeles.13 The study, led by Dr. Tamara Horwich, included more than a
    thousand patients with severe heart failure. After five years 62
    percent of the patients with cholesterol below 129 mg/l had died, but
    only half as many of the patients with cholesterol above 223 mg/l.

    When proponents of the cholesterol hypothesis are confronted with
    findings showing a bad outcome associated with low cholesterol?and
    there are many such observations?they usually argue that severely ill
    patients are often malnourished, and malnourishment is therefore said
    to cause low cholesterol. However, the mortality of the patients in
    this study was independent of their degree of nourishment; low
    cholesterol predicted early mortality whether the patients were
    malnourished or not.

    Smith-Lemli-Opitz Syndrome
    As discussed in The Cholesterol Myths (see sidebar), much evidence
    supports the theory that people born with very high cholesterol,
    so-called familial hypercholesterolemia, are protected against
    infection. But if inborn high cholesterol protects against infections,
    inborn low cholesterol should have the opposite effect. Indeed, this
    seems to be true.

    Children with the Smith-Lemli-Opitz syndrome produce very little
    cholesterol because the enzyme that is necessary for the last step in
    the body's synthesis of cholesterol does not function properly. Most
    children with this syndrome are either stillborn or they die early
    because of serious malformations of the central nervous system. Those
    who survive are imbecile, they have extremely low cholesterol and
    suffer from frequent and severe infections. However, if their diet is
    supplemented with pure cholesterol or extra eggs, their cholesterol
    goes up and their bouts of infection become less serious and less
    frequent.14

    Laboratory Evidence
    Laboratory studies are crucial for learning more about the mechanisms
    by which the lipids exert their protective function. One of the first
    to study this phenomenon was Dr Sucharit Bhakdi from the Institute of
    Medical Microbiology, University of Giessen (Institut für Medizinsche
    Mikrobiologie, Justus-Liebig-Universität Gießen), Germany along with
    his team of researchers from various institutions in Germany and
    Denmark.15

    Staphylococcus aureus a-toxin is the most toxic substance produced by
    strains of the disease-promoting bacteria called staphylococci. It is
    able to destroy a wide variety of human cells, including red blood
    cells. For instance, if minute amounts of the toxin are added to a
    test tube with red blood cells dissolved in 0.9 percent saline, the
    blood is hemolyzed, that is the membranes of the red blood cells burst
    and hemoglobin from the interior of the red blood cells leaks out into
    the solvent. Dr. Bhakdi and his team mixed purified a-toxin with human
    serum (not just the blood cells alone, but the cells and the fluid in
    which the blood cells reside) and saw that 90 percent of its
    hemolyzing effect disappeared. By various complicated methods they
    identified the protective substance as LDL, the carrier of the
    so-called bad cholesterol. In accordance, no hemolysis occurred when
    they mixed a-toxin with purified human LDL, whereas HDL or other
    plasma constituents were ineffective in this respect.

    Dr. [censored] Flegel and his co-workers at the Department of Transfusion
    Medicine, University of Ulm, and the Institute of Immunology and
    Genetics at the German Cancer Research Center in Heidelberg, Germany
    (DRK-Blutspendezentrale und Abteilung für Transfusionsmedizin,
    Universität Ulm, und Deutsches Krebsforschungszentrum, Heidelberg)
    studied endotoxin in another way.16 As mentioned, one of the effects
    of endotoxin is that white blood cells are stimulated to produce
    cytokines. The German researchers found that the cytokine-stimulating
    effect of endotoxin on the white blood cells disappeared almost
    completely if the endotoxin was mixed with human serum for 24 hours
    before they added the white blood cells to the test tubes. In a
    subsequent study17 they found that purified LDL from patients with
    familial hypercholesterolemia had the same inhibitory effect as the
    serum.

    LDL may not only bind and inactivate dangerous bacterial toxins; it
    seems to have a direct beneficial influence on the immune system also,
    possibly explaining the observed relationship between low cholesterol
    and various chronic diseases. This was the starting point for a study
    by Professor Matthew Muldoon and his team at the University of
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. They studied healthy young and middle-aged
    men and found that the total number of white blood cells and the
    number of various types of white blood cells were significantly lower
    in the men with LDL-cholesterol below 160 mg/dl (mean 88.3 mg/l),than
    in men with LDL-cholesterol above 160 mg/l (mean 185.5 mg/l).18 The
    researchers cautiously concluded that there were immune system
    differences between men with low and high cholesterol, but that it was
    too early to state whether these differences had any importance for
    human health. Now, seven years later with many of the results
    discussed here, we are allowed to state that the immune-supporting
    properties of LDL-cholesterol do indeed play an important role in
    human health.

    Animal Experiments
    The immune systems in various mammals including human beings have many
    similarities. Therefore, it is interesting to see what experiments
    with rats and mice can tell us. Professor Kenneth Feingold at the
    Department of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco, and
    his group have published several interesting results from such
    research. In one of them they lowered LDL-cholesterol in rats by
    giving them either a drug that prevents the liver from secreting

  2. (Zee) said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    For ZEE: Great News!
    For the reat of the world: Fribble.

    (Sorry for not trimming the crosspost.)

    L.

    (Zee) said:

    Your thoughts, gentlemen? Zee

    From Uffe Ravnskov MD PhD:

    An article published in QJM 2003:
    High cholesterol may protect against infections and atherosclerosis
    http://qjmed.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/full/96/12/927?ijkey=172mwKXqzgmtE&keytype=ref

    And a book excerpt on the same subject.
    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/benefits_cholest.htm#ravnskovome

    The benefits of high cholesterol

    By Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD

    People with high cholesterol live the longest. This statement seems so
    incredible that it takes a long time to clear one´s brainwashed mind
    to fully understand its importance. Yet the fact that people with high
    cholesterol live the longest emerges clearly from many scientific
    papers. Consider the finding of Dr. Harlan Krumholz of the Department
    of Cardiovascular Medicine at Yale University, who reported in 1994
    that old people with low cholesterol died twice as often from a heart
    attack as did old people with a high cholesterol.1 Supporters of the
    cholesterol campaign consistently ignore his observation, or consider
    it as a rare exception, produced by chance among a huge number of
    studies finding the opposite.

    But it is not an exception; there are now a large number of findings
    that contradict the lipid hypothesis. To be more specific, most
    studies of old people have shown that high cholesterol is not a risk
    factor for coronary heart disease. This was the result of my search in
    the Medline database for studies addressing that question.2Eleven
    studies of old people came up with that result, and a further seven
    studies found that high cholesterol did not predict all-cause
    mortality either.

    Now consider that more than 90 % of all cardiovascular disease is seen
    in people above age 60 also and that almost all studies have found
    that high cholesterol is not a risk factor for women.2 This means that
    high cholesterol is only a risk factor for less than 5 % of those who
    die from a heart attack.

    But there is more comfort for those who have high cholesterol; six of
    the studies found that total mortality was inversely associated with
    either total or LDL-cholesterol, or both. This means that it is
    actually much better to have high than to have low cholesterol if you
    want to live to be very old.

    High Cholesterol Protects Against Infection
    Many studies have found that low cholesterol is in certain respects
    worse than high cholesterol. For instance, in 19 large studies of more
    than 68,000 deaths, reviewed by Professor David R. Jacobs and his
    co-workers from the Division of Epidemiology at the University of
    Minnesota, low cholesterol predicted an increased risk of dying from
    gastrointestinal and respiratory diseases.3

    Most gastrointestinal and respiratory diseases have an infectious
    origin. Therefore, a relevant question is whether it is the infection
    that lowers cholesterol or the low cholesterol that predisposes to
    infection? To answer this question Professor Jacobs and his group,
    together with Dr. Carlos Iribarren, followed more than 100,000 healthy
    individuals in the San Francisco area for fifteen years. At the end of
    the study those who had low cholesterol at the start of the study had
    more often been admitted to the hospital because of an infectious
    disease.4,5 This finding cannot be explained away with the argument
    that the infection had caused cholesterol to go down, because how
    could low cholesterol, recorded when these people were without any
    evidence of infection, be caused by a disease they had not yet
    encountered? Isn´t it more likely that low cholesterol in some way
    made them more vulnerable to infection, or that high cholesterol
    protected those who did not become infected? Much evidence exists to
    support that interpretation.

    Low Cholesterol and HIV/AIDS
    Young, unmarried men with a previous sexually transmitted disease or
    liver disease run a much greater risk of becoming infected with HIV
    virus than other people. The Minnesota researchers, now led by Dr. Ami
    Claxton, followed such individuals for 7-8 years. After having
    excluded those who became HIV-positive during the first four years,
    they ended up with a group of 2446 men. At the end of the study, 140
    of these people tested positive for HIV; those who had low cholesterol
    at the beginning of the study were twice as likely to test postitive
    for HIV compared with those with the highest cholesterol.6

    Similar results come from a study of the MRFIT screenees, including
    more than 300,000 young and middle-aged men, which found that 16 years
    after the first cholesterol analysis the number of men whose
    cholesterol was lower than 160 and who had died from AIDS was four
    times higher than the number of men who had died from AIDS with a
    cholesterol above 240.7

    Cholesterol and Chronic Heart Failure
    Heart disease may lead to a weakening of the heart muscle. A weak
    heart means that less blood and therefore less oxygen is delivered to
    the arteries. To compensate for the decreased power, the heart beat
    goes up, but in severe heart failure this is not sufficient. Patients
    with severe heart failure become short of breath because too little
    oxygen is delivered to the tissues, the pressure in their veins
    increases because the heart cannot deliver the blood away from the
    heart with sufficient power, and they become edematous, meaning that
    fluid accumulates in the legs and in serious cases also in the lungs
    and other parts of the body. This condition is called congestive or
    chronic heart failure.

    There are many indications that bacteria or other microorganisms play
    an important role in chronic heart failure. For instance, patients
    with severe chronic heart failure have high levels of endotoxin and
    various types of cytokines in their blood. Endotoxin, also named
    lipopolysaccharide, is the most toxic substance produced by
    Gram-negative bacteria such as Escherichia coli, Klebsiella,
    Salmonella, Serratia and Pseudomonas. Cytokines are hormones secreted
    by white blood cells in their battle with microorganisms; high levels
    of cytokines in the blood indicate that inflammatory processes are
    going on somewhere in the body.

    The role of infections in chronic heart failure has been studied by
    Dr. Mathias Rauchhaus and his team at the Medical Department,
    Martin-Luther-University in Halle, Germany (Universitätsklinik und
    Poliklinik für Innere Medizin III, Martin-Luther-Universität, Halle).
    They found that the strongest predictor of death for patients with
    chronic heart failure was the concentration of cytokines in the blood,
    in particular in patients with heart failure due to coronary heart
    disease.8 To explain their finding they suggested that bacteria from
    the gut may more easily penetrate into the tissues when the pressure
    in the abdominal veins is increased because of heart failure. In
    accordance with this theory, they found more endotoxin in the blood of
    patients with congestive heart failure and edema than in patients with
    non-congestive heart failure without edema, and endotoxin
    concentrations decreased significantly when the heart's function was
    improved by medical treatment.9

    A simple way to test the functional state of the immune system is to
    inject antigens from microorganisms that most people have been exposed
    to, under the skin. If the immune system is normal, an induration
    (hard spot) will appear about 48 hours later at the place of the
    injection. If the induration is very small, with a diameter of less
    than a few millimeters, this indicates the presence of "anergy," a
    reduction in or failure of response to recognize antigens. In
    accordance, anergy has been found associated with an increased risk of
    infection and mortality in healthy elderly individuals, in surgical
    patients and in heart transplant patients.10

    Dr. Donna Vredevoe and her group from the School of Nursery and the
    School of Medicine, University of California at Los Angeles tested
    more than 200 patients with severe heart failure with five different
    antigens and followed them for twelve months. The cause of heart
    failure was coronary heart disease in half of them and other types of
    heart disease (such as congenital or infectious valvular heart
    disease, various cardiomyopathies and endocarditis) in the rest.
    Almost half of all the patients were anergic, and those who were
    anergic and had coronary heart disease had a much higher mortality
    than the rest.10

    Now to the salient point: to their surprise the researchers found that
    mortality was higher, not only in the patients with anergy, but also
    in the patients with the lowest lipid values, including total
    cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol and HDL-cholesterol as well as
    triglycerides.

    The latter finding was confirmed by Dr. Rauchhaus, this time in
    co-operation with researchers at several German and British university
    hospitals. They found that the risk of dying for patients with chronic
    heart failure was strongly and inversely associated with total
    cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol and also triglycerides; those with high
    lipid values lived much longer than those with low values.11,12

    Other researchers have made similar observations. The largest study
    has been performed by Professor Gregg C. Fonorow and his team at the
    UCLA Department of Medicine and Cardiomyopathy Center in Los
    Angeles.13 The study, led by Dr. Tamara Horwich, included more than a
    thousand patients with severe heart failure. After five years 62
    percent of the patients with cholesterol below 129 mg/l had died, but
    only half as many of the patients with cholesterol above 223 mg/l.

    When proponents of the cholesterol hypothesis are confronted with
    findings showing a bad outcome associated with low cholesterol?and
    there are many such observations?they usually argue that severely ill
    patients are often malnourished, and malnourishment is therefore said
    to cause low cholesterol. However, the mortality of the patients in
    this study was independent of their degree of nourishment; low
    cholesterol predicted early mortality whether the patients were
    malnourished or not.

    Smith-Lemli-Opitz Syndrome
    As discussed in The Cholesterol Myths (see sidebar), much evidence
    supports the theory that people born with very high cholesterol,
    so-called familial hypercholesterolemia, are protected against
    infection. But if inborn high cholesterol protects against infections,
    inborn low cholesterol should have the opposite effect. Indeed, this
    seems to be true.

    Children with the Smith-Lemli-Opitz syndrome produce very little
    cholesterol because the enzyme that is necessary for the last step in
    the body's synthesis of cholesterol does not function properly. Most
    children with this syndrome are either stillborn or they die early
    because of serious malformations of the central nervous system. Those
    who survive are imbecile, they have extremely low cholesterol and
    suffer from frequent and severe infections. However, if their diet is
    supplemented with pure cholesterol or extra eggs, their cholesterol
    goes up and their bouts of infection become less serious and less
    frequent.14

    Laboratory Evidence
    Laboratory studies are crucial for learning more about the mechanisms
    by which the lipids exert their protective function. One of the first
    to study this phenomenon was Dr Sucharit Bhakdi from the Institute of
    Medical Microbiology, University of Giessen (Institut für Medizinsche
    Mikrobiologie, Justus-Liebig-Universität Gießen), Germany along with
    his team of researchers from various institutions in Germany and
    Denmark.15

    Staphylococcus aureus a-toxin is the most toxic substance produced by
    strains of the disease-promoting bacteria called staphylococci. It is
    able to destroy a wide variety of human cells, including red blood
    cells. For instance, if minute amounts of the toxin are added to a
    test tube with red blood cells dissolved in 0.9 percent saline, the
    blood is hemolyzed, that is the membranes of the red blood cells burst
    and hemoglobin from the interior of the red blood cells leaks out into
    the solvent. Dr. Bhakdi and his team mixed purified a-toxin with human
    serum (not just the blood cells alone, but the cells and the fluid in
    which the blood cells reside) and saw that 90 percent of its
    hemolyzing effect disappeared. By various complicated methods they
    identified the protective substance as LDL, the carrier of the
    so-called bad cholesterol. In accordance, no hemolysis occurred when
    they mixed a-toxin with purified human LDL, whereas HDL or other
    plasma constituents were ineffective in this respect.

    Dr. [censored] Flegel and his co-workers at the Department of Transfusion
    Medicine, University of Ulm, and the Institute of Immunology and
    Genetics at the German Cancer Research Center in Heidelberg, Germany
    (DRK-Blutspendezentrale und Abteilung für Transfusionsmedizin,
    Universität Ulm, und Deutsches Krebsforschungszentrum, Heidelberg)
    studied endotoxin in another way.16 As mentioned, one of the effects
    of endotoxin is that white blood cells are stimulated to produce
    cytokines. The German researchers found that the cytokine-stimulating
    effect of endotoxin on the white blood cells disappeared almost
    completely if the endotoxin was mixed with human serum for 24 hours
    before they added the white blood cells to the test tubes. In a
    subsequent study17 they found that purified LDL from patients with
    familial hypercholesterolemia had the same inhibitory effect as the
    serum.

    LDL may not only bind and inactivate dangerous bacterial toxins; it
    seems to have a direct beneficial influence on the immune system also,
    possibly explaining the observed relationship between low cholesterol
    and various chronic diseases. This was the starting point for a study
    by Professor Matthew Muldoon and his team at the University of
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. They studied healthy young and middle-aged
    men and found that the total number of white blood cells and the
    number of various types of white blood cells were significantly lower
    in the men with LDL-cholesterol below 160 mg/dl (mean 88.3 mg/l),than
    in men with LDL-cholesterol above 160 mg/l (mean 185.5 mg/l).18 The
    researchers cautiously concluded that there were immune system
    differences between men with low and high cholesterol, but that it was
    too early to state whether these differences had any importance for
    human health. Now, seven years later with many of the results
    discussed here, we are allowed to state that the immune-supporting
    properties of LDL-cholesterol do indeed play an important role in
    human health.

    Animal Experiments
    The immune systems in various mammals including human beings have many
    similarities. Therefore, it is interesting to see what experiments
    with rats and mice can tell us. Professor Kenneth Feingold at the
    Department of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco, and
    his group have published several interesting results from such
    research. In one of them they lowered LDL-cholesterol in rats by
    giving them either a drug that prevents the liver from secreting

  3. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (Zee) said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    I thought not to bother answering you. You must be very angry to say
    such a thing. You are trying to hurt me. And you and I both know why.
    Nothing whatever to do with what you have said.

    I don't even believe you are Jewish. However...

    I didn't attend university until I was 45. It was one of my joys to
    take whatever courses I pleased. I was pleased to take a lot of
    linguistics. I love language, yes; the sounds, the meanings, the
    history. I know some Yiddish. Yes. Among the books on my shelves is
    one that has this within. Some of the pages are in Hebrew, some in
    English.

    "Is there anything we can do? There must be. Surely apathy is not the
    answer; nor is silence. Depair is not the solution; despair is the
    question."

    Do you know the author? I first read his work as a young woman trying
    to understand the terrible films I had viewed in my high school
    audirorium. Films my teachers showed us, telling us never forget,
    films they took great pains to get. Few people even today have seen
    those films, taken upon liberation of Auschwitz.

    The quote is from the siddur on the shelf behind my computer.

    Zee

    Quoted message said:
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    For ZEE: Great News!
    For the reat of the world: Fribble.

    (Sorry for not trimming the crosspost.)

    L.

    On 14 Jul 2004 13:22:35 -0700, [email hidden] (Zee) wrote:

    >Your thoughts, gentlemen? Zee
    >
    >
    >
    >From Uffe Ravnskov MD PhD:
    >
    >An article published in QJM 2003:
    >High cholesterol may protect against infections and atherosclerosis
    >http://qjmed.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/full/96/12/927?ijkey=172mwKXqzgmtE&keytype=ref
    >
    >
    >And a book excerpt on the same subject.
    >http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/benefits_cholest.htm#ravnskovome
    >
    >The benefits of high cholesterol
    >
    >By Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD
    >
    >People with high cholesterol live the longest. This statement seems so
    >incredible that it takes a long time to clear one´s brainwashed mind
    >to fully understand its importance. Yet the fact that people with high
    >cholesterol live the longest emerges clearly from many scientific
    >papers. Consider the finding of Dr. Harlan Krumholz of the Department
    >of Cardiovascular Medicine at Yale University, who reported in 1994
    >that old people with low cholesterol died twice as often from a heart
    >attack as did old people with a high cholesterol.1 Supporters of the
    >cholesterol campaign consistently ignore his observation, or consider
    >it as a rare exception, produced by chance among a huge number of
    >studies finding the opposite.
    >
    >But it is not an exception; there are now a large number of findings
    >that contradict the lipid hypothesis. To be more specific, most
    >studies of old people have shown that high cholesterol is not a risk
    >factor for coronary heart disease. This was the result of my search in
    >the Medline database for studies addressing that question.2Eleven
    >studies of old people came up with that result, and a further seven
    >studies found that high cholesterol did not predict all-cause
    >mortality either.
    >
    >Now consider that more than 90 % of all cardiovascular disease is seen
    >in people above age 60 also and that almost all studies have found
    >that high cholesterol is not a risk factor for women.2 This means that
    >high cholesterol is only a risk factor for less than 5 % of those who
    >die from a heart attack.
    >
    >But there is more comfort for those who have high cholesterol; six of
    >the studies found that total mortality was inversely associated with
    >either total or LDL-cholesterol, or both. This means that it is
    >actually much better to have high than to have low cholesterol if you
    >want to live to be very old.
    >
    >High Cholesterol Protects Against Infection
    >Many studies have found that low cholesterol is in certain respects
    >worse than high cholesterol. For instance, in 19 large studies of more
    >than 68,000 deaths, reviewed by Professor David R. Jacobs and his
    >co-workers from the Division of Epidemiology at the University of
    >Minnesota, low cholesterol predicted an increased risk of dying from
    >gastrointestinal and respiratory diseases.3
    >
    >Most gastrointestinal and respiratory diseases have an infectious
    >origin. Therefore, a relevant question is whether it is the infection
    >that lowers cholesterol or the low cholesterol that predisposes to
    >infection? To answer this question Professor Jacobs and his group,
    >together with Dr. Carlos Iribarren, followed more than 100,000 healthy
    >individuals in the San Francisco area for fifteen years. At the end of
    >the study those who had low cholesterol at the start of the study had
    >more often been admitted to the hospital because of an infectious
    >disease.4,5 This finding cannot be explained away with the argument
    >that the infection had caused cholesterol to go down, because how
    >could low cholesterol, recorded when these people were without any
    >evidence of infection, be caused by a disease they had not yet
    >encountered? Isn´t it more likely that low cholesterol in some way
    >made them more vulnerable to infection, or that high cholesterol
    >protected those who did not become infected? Much evidence exists to
    >support that interpretation.
    >
    >Low Cholesterol and HIV/AIDS
    >Young, unmarried men with a previous sexually transmitted disease or
    >liver disease run a much greater risk of becoming infected with HIV
    >virus than other people. The Minnesota researchers, now led by Dr. Ami
    >Claxton, followed such individuals for 7-8 years. After having
    >excluded those who became HIV-positive during the first four years,
    >they ended up with a group of 2446 men. At the end of the study, 140
    >of these people tested positive for HIV; those who had low cholesterol
    >at the beginning of the study were twice as likely to test postitive
    >for HIV compared with those with the highest cholesterol.6
    >
    >Similar results come from a study of the MRFIT screenees, including
    >more than 300,000 young and middle-aged men, which found that 16 years
    >after the first cholesterol analysis the number of men whose
    >cholesterol was lower than 160 and who had died from AIDS was four
    >times higher than the number of men who had died from AIDS with a
    >cholesterol above 240.7
    >
    >Cholesterol and Chronic Heart Failure
    >Heart disease may lead to a weakening of the heart muscle. A weak
    >heart means that less blood and therefore less oxygen is delivered to
    >the arteries. To compensate for the decreased power, the heart beat
    >goes up, but in severe heart failure this is not sufficient. Patients
    >with severe heart failure become short of breath because too little
    >oxygen is delivered to the tissues, the pressure in their veins
    >increases because the heart cannot deliver the blood away from the
    >heart with sufficient power, and they become edematous, meaning that
    >fluid accumulates in the legs and in serious cases also in the lungs
    >and other parts of the body. This condition is called congestive or
    >chronic heart failure.
    >
    >There are many indications that bacteria or other microorganisms play
    >an important role in chronic heart failure. For instance, patients
    >with severe chronic heart failure have high levels of endotoxin and
    >various types of cytokines in their blood. Endotoxin, also named
    >lipopolysaccharide, is the most toxic substance produced by
    >Gram-negative bacteria such as Escherichia coli, Klebsiella,
    >Salmonella, Serratia and Pseudomonas. Cytokines are hormones secreted
    >by white blood cells in their battle with microorganisms; high levels
    >of cytokines in the blood indicate that inflammatory processes are
    >going on somewhere in the body.
    >
    >The role of infections in chronic heart failure has been studied by
    >Dr. Mathias Rauchhaus and his team at the Medical Department,
    >Martin-Luther-University in Halle, Germany (Universitätsklinik und
    >Poliklinik für Innere Medizin III, Martin-Luther-Universität, Halle).
    >They found that the strongest predictor of death for patients with
    >chronic heart failure was the concentration of cytokines in the blood,
    >in particular in patients with heart failure due to coronary heart
    >disease.8 To explain their finding they suggested that bacteria from
    >the gut may more easily penetrate into the tissues when the pressure
    >in the abdominal veins is increased because of heart failure. In
    >accordance with this theory, they found more endotoxin in the blood of
    >patients with congestive heart failure and edema than in patients with
    >non-congestive heart failure without edema, and endotoxin
    >concentrations decreased significantly when the heart's function was
    >improved by medical treatment.9
    >
    >A simple way to test the functional state of the immune system is to
    >inject antigens from microorganisms that most people have been exposed
    >to, under the skin. If the immune system is normal, an induration
    >(hard spot) will appear about 48 hours later at the place of the
    >injection. If the induration is very small, with a diameter of less
    >than a few millimeters, this indicates the presence of "anergy," a
    >reduction in or failure of response to recognize antigens. In
    >accordance, anergy has been found associated with an increased risk of
    >infection and mortality in healthy elderly individuals, in surgical
    >patients and in heart transplant patients.10
    >
    >Dr. Donna Vredevoe and her group from the School of Nursery and the
    >School of Medicine, University of California at Los Angeles tested
    >more than 200 patients with severe heart failure with five different
    >antigens and followed them for twelve months. The cause of heart
    >failure was coronary heart disease in half of them and other types of
    >heart disease (such as congenital or infectious valvular heart
    >disease, various cardiomyopathies and endocarditis) in the rest.
    >Almost half of all the patients were anergic, and those who were
    >anergic and had coronary heart disease had a much higher mortality
    >than the rest.10
    >
    >Now to the salient point: to their surprise the researchers found that
    >mortality was higher, not only in the patients with anergy, but also
    >in the patients with the lowest lipid values, including total
    >cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol and HDL-cholesterol as well as
    >triglycerides.
    >
    >The latter finding was confirmed by Dr. Rauchhaus, this time in
    >co-operation with researchers at several German and British university
    >hospitals. They found that the risk of dying for patients with chronic
    >heart failure was strongly and inversely associated with total
    >cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol and also triglycerides; those with high
    >lipid values lived much longer than those with low values.11,12
    >
    >Other researchers have made similar observations. The largest study
    >has been performed by Professor Gregg C. Fonorow and his team at the
    >UCLA Department of Medicine and Cardiomyopathy Center in Los
    >Angeles.13 The study, led by Dr. Tamara Horwich, included more than a
    >thousand patients with severe heart failure. After five years 62
    >percent of the patients with cholesterol below 129 mg/l had died, but
    >only half as many of the patients with cholesterol above 223 mg/l.
    >
    >When proponents of the cholesterol hypothesis are confronted with
    >findings showing a bad outcome associated with low cholesterol?and
    >there are many such observations?they usually argue that severely ill
    >patients are often malnourished, and malnourishment is therefore said
    >to cause low cholesterol. However, the mortality of the patients in
    >this study was independent of their degree of nourishment; low
    >cholesterol predicted early mortality whether the patients were
    >malnourished or not.
    >
    >Smith-Lemli-Opitz Syndrome
    >As discussed in The Cholesterol Myths (see sidebar), much evidence
    >supports the theory that people born with very high cholesterol,
    >so-called familial hypercholesterolemia, are protected against
    >infection. But if inborn high cholesterol protects against infections,
    >inborn low cholesterol should have the opposite effect. Indeed, this
    >seems to be true.
    >
    >Children with the Smith-Lemli-Opitz syndrome produce very little
    >cholesterol because the enzyme that is necessary for the last step in
    >the body's synthesis of cholesterol does not function properly. Most
    >children with this syndrome are either stillborn or they die early
    >because of serious malformations of the central nervous system. Those
    >who survive are imbecile, they have extremely low cholesterol and
    >suffer from frequent and severe infections. However, if their diet is
    >supplemented with pure cholesterol or extra eggs, their cholesterol
    >goes up and their bouts of infection become less serious and less
    >frequent.14
    >
    >Laboratory Evidence
    >Laboratory studies are crucial for learning more about the mechanisms
    >by which the lipids exert their protective function. One of the first
    >to study this phenomenon was Dr Sucharit Bhakdi from the Institute of
    >Medical Microbiology, University of Giessen (Institut für Medizinsche
    >Mikrobiologie, Justus-Liebig-Universität Gießen), Germany along with
    >his team of researchers from various institutions in Germany and
    >Denmark.15
    >
    >Staphylococcus aureus a-toxin is the most toxic substance produced by
    >strains of the disease-promoting bacteria called staphylococci. It is
    >able to destroy a wide variety of human cells, including red blood
    >cells. For instance, if minute amounts of the toxin are added to a
    >test tube with red blood cells dissolved in 0.9 percent saline, the
    >blood is hemolyzed, that is the membranes of the red blood cells burst
    >and hemoglobin from the interior of the red blood cells leaks out into
    >the solvent. Dr. Bhakdi and his team mixed purified a-toxin with human
    >serum (not just the blood cells alone, but the cells and the fluid in
    >which the blood cells reside) and saw that 90 percent of its
    >hemolyzing effect disappeared. By various complicated methods they
    >identified the protective substance as LDL, the carrier of the
    >so-called bad cholesterol. In accordance, no hemolysis occurred when
    >they mixed a-toxin with purified human LDL, whereas HDL or other
    >plasma constituents were ineffective in this respect.
    >
    >Dr. [censored] Flegel and his co-workers at the Department of Transfusion
    >Medicine, University of Ulm, and the Institute of Immunology and
    >Genetics at the German Cancer Research Center in Heidelberg, Germany
    >(DRK-Blutspendezentrale und Abteilung für Transfusionsmedizin,
    >Universität Ulm, und Deutsches Krebsforschungszentrum, Heidelberg)
    >studied endotoxin in another way.16 As mentioned, one of the effects

  4. "Zee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > to understand the terrible
    films I had viewed in my high school

    Quoted message said:

    audirorium. Films my teachers showed us, telling us never forget,
    films they took great pains to get. Few people even today have seen
    those films, taken upon liberation of Auschwitz.

    I remember seeing one bad film in my epidemiology class in college. It was
    of a ten year old boy afflicted with rabies. The moral of the story was he
    didn't have to die that way. There is a rabies vaccine and yes it is
    produced by the pharm companies and no it was filmed by the US Public health
    department.

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