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Re: Headset race fit / snugness

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  1. Retro Bob said:

    If a headset fork race is spec'ed at 26.4, is the fork itself supposed
    to be 26.4 or a little oversize ? That is, if both the fork and race
    are exactly 26.4, it will sit loose, so either the fork should be over
    a little or the race, correct ? What's the tradition ?
    Same question for the crown race ? If the spec is 30.2, is the cup
    itself a little oversize ? Or is the head tube a little undersize ?

    Did the Italians have their own standard for headset dimensions 20
    or so years ago ?

    As you might guess, I am trying to diagnose why a headset that
    should fit is loose. Something is wrong, but I'm not sure which
    part should be at which spec.

    The races are always an interference fit on the frame and fork, i.e. the
    crown race is a little smaller than the fork crown and the cups are a
    little larger than the head tube. This means that things are stretched
    slightly when fitted, which keeps them in place.

    The sizes are here, and the 1" ISO size is "Campagnolo" standard:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_h.html#headset

    The Japanese used to have their own JIS sizes but modern bikes use the
    ISO standard.

  2. 07 Oct 2004 20:25:56 +0100 Zog The Undeniable said:

    The sizes are here, and the 1" ISO size is "Campagnolo" standard:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_h.html#headset

    This is a nice collection of info, but it only gives the headset
    dimensions. It would be even more useful if it also gave the
    dimensions for the mating part on the frame and fork. I think that's
    what the OP wanted to know.
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    Jim Adney [email hidden]
    Madison, WI 53711 USA
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  3. On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 22:35:52 -0500, Jim Adney <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    07 Oct 2004 20:25:56 +0100 Zog The Undeniable said:

    The sizes are here, and the 1" ISO size is "Campagnolo" standard:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_h.html#headset

    This is a nice collection of info, but it only gives the headset
    dimensions. It would be even more useful if it also gave the
    dimensions for the mating part on the frame and fork. I think that's
    what the OP wanted to know.
    -
    -----------------------------------------------
    Jim Adney [email hidden]
    Madison, WI 53711 USA
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    According to the Barnett Manual, on a 1" ISO headset-

    crown race- 26.30–26.40mm
    fork column race- 26.45–26.55mm

    head tube race- 30.15–30.30mm
    head tube- 29.95–30.05mm

    So the minimum amount for the proper press fit is .05mm, or about .002
    inch, or .001 radially... hmmm.... typical smallest measurement for
    calipers? Maybe less would work.

    My minimal experience with a fork crown race being sloppy was because
    the used bike had been ridden with a misadjusted headset. I ended up
    taking down the fork column race on a lathe. A brass pipe was lathed
    down to make a shim. Making .001-.002" shim material stay in place for
    a circular press fit was beyond me, but with this method I could make
    a .010" shim that worked fine.

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