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Re: HARLEQUIN LADYBIRD.

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  1. Old Codger said:
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    Brin said:

    The Harlequin Ladybird is no ordinary ladybird. It is the most
    invasive on earth and it is a "killer". It eats aphids but it also
    eats other Ladybirds,butterfly eggs,lacewing larva etc.
    It arrived in the UK in 2004 From the USA where it has decimated some
    native ladybird populations.An on-line survey has been launched to try
    to chart its progress in the UK.For more details of the Harlequin and
    the survey go to:-
    http;//www.harlequin-survey.org
    I will do the survey and have made a pledge to that effect on
    Pledgebank.I am looking for 10 other environmentally minded people to
    do the same.If I get the 10 I am hoping to get some publicity in the
    media for the survey.Have a look at the pledge,its simple and any co-
    signees would remain anonymous. Go to:-
    http://www.pledgebank.com/killerladybird

    Please help. Remember what has happened to our native Red Squirrel
    since the introduction of the Grey Sqirrel.

    For that gross ignorance there is no doubt you are a [censored], and
    therefore make the whole post worthless.

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    After some grants, Brin?

    Just a [censored].

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    In recent months we have seen a build up of orchestrated hate being
    directed at grey squirrels by a number of NGOs and conservation
    organisations in order to gain public support for an agenda of killing
    these friendly, amusing and relatively harmless animals. This is now a
    reality as red squirrel conservation groups have embarked on a
    ruthless program of killing.

    However, before falling for these smooth-talking advocates of death,
    perhaps we should consider a number of issues.

    · The word "species" is no more than a scientific term within an
    anthropocentrically concocted classification system and the idea we
    should have adjectives such as "native", "non-native" and "alien"
    describing an inanimate term is really quite ridiculous. It amounts to
    the grand theft of these words for spurious and emotive reasons.

    · When a grey squirrel is trapped and bludgeoned to death, it is
    not an alien or non-native species that is on the receiving end of the
    club but an individual animal born and bred in this country from
    around forty five generations and as native as I am.

    · All individual squirrels in Scotland are native by birth,
    irrespective of their ancestral heritage or the colour of their fur.
    The Greys' ancestors were brought here from America, just as the
    present population of non-indigenous Reds were brought here from
    Europe. Indeed, there is no evidence to show that the so-called past
    "indigenous" population was not introduced here as well.
    Archaeological evidence of their existence in England after the last
    ice age is both sketchy and inconclusive.

    · The idea that genetically different animals within the
    wide-ranging flux of a species can be "re-introduced" because they
    look similar is not only the product of sloppy science but on or over
    the verge of dishonesty. It's a bit like passing off a reproduction
    for an antique.

    · The indigenous Red population, if there ever was such a thing,
    was shot to extinction (confirmed by the Forestry Commission) by
    estate owners and the like, who referred to them in the past as
    "tree-rats" - the very same term as is now being used against Greys to
    demonise them in the eyes of the general public. Red squirrels were as
    much a "pest" as Greys, to those who regarded them with intolerance.

    · The squirrel-pox virus can be passed from Red to Red as well
    as Grey to Red, and Red squirrel populations are now showing signs of
    antibodies similar to that which provides the Greys with immunity.
    This natural process will eventually protect the Reds. In reality,
    very few Greys are carriers of this disease and it is as unfair as it
    is obscene to slaughter them indiscriminately on the premise of a
    possibility. Indeed, red populations have succumbed to virus
    infection in the past, long before greys came on the scene.

    · The political and grant grabbing fad of planting native
    broadleaf trees favours the expansion of Grey squirrels. This is well
    known to conservationists, yet in only a very few places are they
    willing to deviate from this path because of the money and politics
    involved.

    · Scottish Natural Heritage is the leading protagonist in this
    drive against Grey squirrels. They are in the unique position of being
    advisors to government who in turn provides them with the necessary
    funding to carry out whatever they manage to convince the government
    is necessary. This is an unhealthy and unbroken ring that requires a
    continuous flow of environmental crisises to fund their existence and
    regrettably this results in persecution of wildlife unheard of in the
    past. Sadly, they are adopting the same principle of ethnic cleansing
    against wildlife as numerous brutal regimes have done against human
    populations. It is a scientific fact that those who have little regard
    for animal life are the most likely to have little regard for humans.
    This intolerance should have no part in a civilised society.

    Squirrels are not "ours", no matter what colour they are. We don't own
    them. They are independent and parallel mammalian populations to our
    own and we should afford them the same respect and freedom we expect
    for ourselves.

    Here, here. CONservation hooliganism is the greatest danger to
    conservation, which is why it attracts gold digging criminals like
    Malcolm Ogilvie et al. Just take a look at his posting history.

    http://tinyurl.com/3dpkfw

    Didnt he also get caught copying Konters book on grebes!

    http://tinyurl.com/358ppa

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