Re: Getting a decent news reader, filtering

[Edward Dolan]

"Colorado Bicycler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Rita wrote:
>> On 6 Jun 2006 04:25:37 -0700, "Colorado Bicycler" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Okay, you good USENET folks out there.
>> >
>> >Currently I am on (and will continue on for a variety of reasons) AOL
>> >(DSL), which no longer supports newsgroups.
>> >
>> >I am using Google for newsgroups.
>> >
>> >I would like to be able to reasonably filter out certain authors,
>> >topics, and content (names mentioned) on rec.bicycles.misc.
>> >
>> >What choices do I have? How would I access these choices?
>> >
>> >I will not be leaving AOL, so that is not an option.
>> >
>> >I would be willing to pay a small fee if necessary.
>> >
>> >Do you believe that USENET will continue in its current format?
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>
>> You seem to be confusing news servers with news readers. You
>> need a news server to give you access to Usenet since AOL no
>> longer provides you with one.
>>
>> You then need a news reader to read the posts -- Outlook Express,
>> Agent, Thunderbird (Mozilla), or one of the others. OE and
>> Thunderbird and some of the others are free software. Agent
>> is very good but has a one-time fee to buy.
>>
>> AOL provided you with both a news server and a news reader
>> (albeit a pretty lousy one).
>>
>> A news server will deliver all the posts -- a news reader will allow
>> you to filter posts, and some news readers provide more options
>> for this than others.
>>
>> You probably wll have to pay a fee to sign up for a news server.
>> But you can easily find a free news reader and download and install
>> the software. You probably have one, Outlook Express, on your
>> computer right now.
>
> Thank you for all your responses. They have been very helpful!

For heaven's sakes, just use your OE like any sensible person would. It is
free, works fine and you can filter with it to your heart's content if you
are brainless enough to want to do it. All those who advised you to pay for
a newsreader are totally insane and have more money than brains. Surely your
ISP services your OE? If not, get a new ISP!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[chuck]

On 2006-06-07, Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Colorado Bicycler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Rita wrote:
>>> On 6 Jun 2006 04:25:37 -0700, "Colorado Bicycler" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Okay, you good USENET folks out there.
>>> >
>>> >Currently I am on (and will continue on for a variety of reasons) AOL
>>> >(DSL), which no longer supports newsgroups.
>>> >
>>> >I am using Google for newsgroups.
>>> >
>>> >I would like to be able to reasonably filter out certain authors,
>>> >topics, and content (names mentioned) on rec.bicycles.misc.
>>> >
>>> >What choices do I have? How would I access these choices?
>>> >
>>> >I will not be leaving AOL, so that is not an option.
>>> >
>>> >I would be willing to pay a small fee if necessary.
>>> >
>>> >Do you believe that USENET will continue in its current format?
>>> >
>>> >Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>>
>>> You seem to be confusing news servers with news readers. You
>>> need a news server to give you access to Usenet since AOL no
>>> longer provides you with one.
>>>
>>> You then need a news reader to read the posts -- Outlook Express,
>>> Agent, Thunderbird (Mozilla), or one of the others. OE and
>>> Thunderbird and some of the others are free software. Agent
>>> is very good but has a one-time fee to buy.
>>>
>>> AOL provided you with both a news server and a news reader
>>> (albeit a pretty lousy one).
>>>
>>> A news server will deliver all the posts -- a news reader will allow
>>> you to filter posts, and some news readers provide more options
>>> for this than others.
>>>
>>> You probably wll have to pay a fee to sign up for a news server.
>>> But you can easily find a free news reader and download and install
>>> the software. You probably have one, Outlook Express, on your
>>> computer right now.
>>
>> Thank you for all your responses. They have been very helpful!
>
> For heaven's sakes, just use your OE like any sensible person would. It is
> free, works fine and you can filter with it to your heart's content if you
> are brainless enough to want to do it. All those who advised you to pay for
> a newsreader are totally insane and have more money than brains. Surely your
> ISP services your OE? If not, get a new ISP!
>
>
This reply is definately in the wrong newsgroup. alt.tasteless.jokes
would be more appropriate.
>

 

[Colorado Bicycler]

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Colorado Bicycler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Rita wrote:
> >> On 6 Jun 2006 04:25:37 -0700, "Colorado Bicycler" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Okay, you good USENET folks out there.
> >> >
> >> >Currently I am on (and will continue on for a variety of reasons) AOL
> >> >(DSL), which no longer supports newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> >I am using Google for newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> >I would like to be able to reasonably filter out certain authors,
> >> >topics, and content (names mentioned) on rec.bicycles.misc.
> >> >
> >> >What choices do I have? How would I access these choices?
> >> >
> >> >I will not be leaving AOL, so that is not an option.
> >> >
> >> >I would be willing to pay a small fee if necessary.
> >> >
> >> >Do you believe that USENET will continue in its current format?
> >> >
> >> >Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >>
> >> You seem to be confusing news servers with news readers. You
> >> need a news server to give you access to Usenet since AOL no
> >> longer provides you with one.
> >>
> >> You then need a news reader to read the posts -- Outlook Express,
> >> Agent, Thunderbird (Mozilla), or one of the others. OE and
> >> Thunderbird and some of the others are free software. Agent
> >> is very good but has a one-time fee to buy.
> >>
> >> AOL provided you with both a news server and a news reader
> >> (albeit a pretty lousy one).
> >>
> >> A news server will deliver all the posts -- a news reader will allow
> >> you to filter posts, and some news readers provide more options
> >> for this than others.
> >>
> >> You probably wll have to pay a fee to sign up for a news server.
> >> But you can easily find a free news reader and download and install
> >> the software. You probably have one, Outlook Express, on your
> >> computer right now.
> >
> > Thank you for all your responses. They have been very helpful!
>
> For heaven's sakes, just use your OE like any sensible person would. It is
> free, works fine and you can filter with it to your heart's content if you
> are brainless enough to want to do it. All those who advised you to pay for
> a newsreader are totally insane and have more money than brains. Surely your
> ISP services your OE? If not, get a new ISP!
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

If you would stop posting, I wouldn't need the filter.

 

[Ken C. M.]

Colorado Bicycler wrote:

> If you would stop posting, I wouldn't need the filter.
>
Well said. But E.D. is not the only troll poster. There is the end of
the alphabet guy. But neither of them are as bad as the old high-racer
blog guy.

Ken
--
New cycling jersey: $49
new cycling shorts: $39
Not being a slave to the petrol pump: priceless.

contact me here: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/contact.html

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Ken C. M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Colorado Bicycler wrote:
>
>> If you would stop posting, I wouldn't need the filter.
>>
> Well said. But E.D. is not the only troll poster. There is the end of the
> alphabet guy. But neither of them are as bad as the old high-racer blog
> guy.

The latter was a troll by anyone's definition whereas the former are not
trolls at all. Vandeman and I are merely contentious, but I am sick and
tired of trying to explain this difference to idiots like Ken.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Ken C. M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Pat Lamb wrote:
>> chuck wrote:
>>
>>>On 2006-06-07, Edward Dolan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>For heaven's sakes, just use your OE like any sensible person would. It
>>>>is free, works fine and you can filter with it to your heart's content
>>>>if you are brainless enough to want to do it. All those who advised you
>>>>to pay for a newsreader are totally insane and have more money than
>>>>brains. Surely your ISP services your OE? If not, get a new ISP!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>This reply is definately in the wrong newsgroup. alt.tasteless.jokes
>>>would be more appropriate.
>>
>>
>> I don't get it. Is the idiot joking about OE or AOL?
>
> It doesn't matter much. They are both pretty worthless.

I know absolutely nothing about AOL, but I can tell you that OE is the
greatest thing to come along since sliced bread. Frankly, I also like IE too
even though I regularly gets lots of viruses every time I use it. But let's
face it, Microsoft would not be as great as it is if it weren't doing
something right. The few Mac systems I have seen around do not seem to work
with anything much. Microsoft Windows is the only way to go and anyone who
tells you otherwise is a blooming idiot.

Now that you have gotten the word from on high by a computer user who has
been into this for a couple of years you can relax and go with the flow.
Yea, get Windows XP, the IE browser and the OE mail server. You might also
want the Windows Media Player too if you like music and radio. Now you will
have everything you will ever need. No charge! Just part of my noblesse
oblige to all the ignoramuses of the world.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> catzz66 wrote:

[newsgroups restored]

>> Ken C. M. wrote:
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter much. They are both pretty worthless.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This is pretty off topic, but I travel fairly often in the South and with
>> @OL you can pretty much sign on with dialup anywhere in the US, which has
>> been convenient for our family. More ISPs offer multiple screen names
>> which @ol has been allowing for a long time. This has a lot of possible
>> family benefits since everyone can have his own screen name, etc. Our
>> service has been very reliable. About the only thing it doesn't offer is
>> usenet access and back when they did, it was a dud.
>
> No usenet, no use to me.

Well, if you were to take a vacation from Usenet, no one would miss you.
That is for sure!

> I have found the alt.binaries.'e-books (multiple groups)' to be almost
> indispensable for downloading technical stuff and some random reading, and
> hunt the railroad pictures group for old steam engine pics.
> OE is indeed worthless to me so I use Thunderbird but it still has
> shortcomings in the filter area. If you can't get direct access try some
> of the free news sites, which while rare, do exist. Google Edisontel and
> see what you get, since I found one called, I think, news.edisontel.com
> (net?).

You bet Bill, just give him one bum steer after another. After all, that is
all you do here day in and day out anyway.

By the way, what the f*** is wrong with OE? That program was put together by
genuises to be used by idiots like you and me.

> If you want to pay you can go to Giganews and get access to about 100,000
> groups from around the world.
> The world is full of choices.

Anyone who pays one dime for a newsreader is totally insane. But folks who
have more money than brains always want to pay. It makes them feel special.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Peter Clinch]

Bill Baka wrote:

> BTW, the great what, PITA?

The great reason to use the highly effective killfile filtering
available in T-brid! It certainly makes a.r.b.r. a lot more worth my
time with Ed in the Bozo Bin where he clearly belongs

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

 

[Ken C. M.]

Bill Baka wrote:

>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>>
> BTW, the great what, PITA?
> Bill Baka
>

Ed Dolan the Great White Dope.

Life is full of trade offs. Google groups is free, but no filtering.
Giganews isn't free but $8 a month isn't bad for reliable service.
AOL just plain stinks. I used them in the past. Now I use netzero with
proxyconn internet accelerator. I have had no connection problems since
switching from aohell. The total for the isp, accelerator and usenet is
still less than aol dial up.

Mozilla FireFox is far better than Internet Exploiter and if you stop
using IE then you will learn that MS is full of problems and you will
want to change you news client to something else as well. While
Thundebird may not be the best out there it is free and less prone to
security problems that plague Outleak Exploder.

Ken
--
Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Peter Clinch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bill Baka wrote:
>
>> BTW, the great what, PITA?
>
> The great reason to use the highly effective killfile filtering available
> in T-brid! It certainly makes a.r.b.r. a lot more worth my time with Ed
> in the Bozo Bin where he clearly belongs

This English asshole is never worth responding to since he is nothing but a
kill filer.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Ken C. M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Bill Baka wrote:
>
>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>> aka
>>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>>
>>>
>> BTW, the great what, PITA?
>> Bill Baka
>>
>
> Ed Dolan the Great White Dope.

Better to be White than Black, at least in America. But dopiness belongs
exclusively to Kenneth. Is he perhaps a Black Dope I wonder?

> Life is full of trade offs. Google groups is free, but no filtering.
> Giganews isn't free but $8 a month isn't bad for reliable service.
> AOL just plain stinks. I used them in the past. Now I use netzero with
> proxyconn internet accelerator. I have had no connection problems since
> switching from aohell. The total for the isp, accelerator and usenet is
> still less than aol dial up.

If you are on dial-up, then you are in the sticks. What else do we have to
know about you other than that you are a rube.

> Mozilla FireFox is far better than Internet Exploiter and if you stop
> using IE then you will learn that MS is full of problems and you will want
> to change you news client to something else as well. While Thundebird may
> not be the best out there it is free and less prone to security problems
> that plague Outleak Exploder.

What security problems have you ever had with OE?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Matt O'Toole]

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:01:51 -0700, Bill Baka wrote:

> Thunderbird is not perfect but it is based on what is left of Netscape
> and is far less likely to be hacked into than OE.

Thunderbird sucks because of that stupid bar thing it uses for displaying
quoted text. It mangles quoted text and message bodies as badly as OE
does.

Matt O.

 

[Bill Baka]

Peter Clinch wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>
>> BTW, the great what, PITA?
>
> The great reason to use the highly effective killfile filtering
> available in T-brid! It certainly makes a.r.b.r. a lot more worth my
> time with Ed in the Bozo Bin where he clearly belongs
>
> Pete.

Yeah,
I did that on the 'from' field but Thunderbird does not have the ability
to weed out replies to him (Dolan in body of text) or the messages
posted to ten groups. I tried to hack it in with notepad and T-bird just
bounced the hand made kill file.
Ideas?
Bill Baka

 

[Bill Baka]

Ken C. M. wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>
>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>> aka
>>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>>
>>>
>> BTW, the great what, PITA?
>> Bill Baka
>>
>
> Ed Dolan the Great White Dope.
>
> Life is full of trade offs. Google groups is free, but no filtering.
> Giganews isn't free but $8 a month isn't bad for reliable service.
> AOL just plain stinks. I used them in the past. Now I use netzero with
> proxyconn internet accelerator. I have had no connection problems since
> switching from aohell. The total for the isp, accelerator and usenet is
> still less than aol dial up.
>
> Mozilla FireFox is far better than Internet Exploiter and if you stop
> using IE then you will learn that MS is full of problems and you will
> want to change you news client to something else as well. While
> Thundebird may not be the best out there it is free and less prone to
> security problems that plague Outleak Exploder.
>
> Ken

Agreed on just about everything there. I only use IE because Microsuck
forces you to use it for interactive updating. I turn on every
anti-virus, anti-spyware, and firewall program I have before using IE
and have never had a virus using Firefox or Thunderbird.
Bill Baka

 

[Ken C. M.]

Bill Baka wrote:
> Peter Clinch wrote:
>
>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, the great what, PITA?
>>
>>
>> The great reason to use the highly effective killfile filtering
>> available in T-brid! It certainly makes a.r.b.r. a lot more worth my
>> time with Ed in the Bozo Bin where he clearly belongs
>>
>> Pete.
>
>
> Yeah,
> I did that on the 'from' field but Thunderbird does not have the ability
> to weed out replies to him (Dolan in body of text) or the messages
> posted to ten groups. I tried to hack it in with notepad and T-bird just
> bounced the hand made kill file.
> Ideas?
> Bill Baka

I haven't found a way to filter in the body of the message yet.
Hopefully someone will come up with an extension soon.
If I find E.D. too much in one thread then I just hit ignore thread.
The only thing about that is then I miss good posts as well.

Ken
--
Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea

 

[Bill Baka]

Matt O'Toole wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:01:51 -0700, Bill Baka wrote:
>
>> Thunderbird is not perfect but it is based on what is left of Netscape
>> and is far less likely to be hacked into than OE.
>
> Thunderbird sucks because of that stupid bar thing it uses for displaying
> quoted text. It mangles quoted text and message bodies as badly as OE
> does.
>
> Matt O.
>
>
Matt,
That is only because a lot of sites are written to be most compatible
with IE and use the latest Java script, Active-X, etc., and that stuff
may look like nice eye candy, but it opens the door for virus attacks
and other nasties.
I am using Thunderbird now and your text does not have the bar, but
rather right arrows. It probably depends on what level of HTML or XML is
in the body of the message. I just looked at your source code and it
looks like just plain text, so no problem.
It all depends on what you want, V-8 or 4 cylinder.
Bill Baka

 

[chuck]

On 2006-06-08, Ken C. M. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Mozilla FireFox is far better than Internet Exploiter and if you stop
> using IE then you will learn that MS is full of problems and you will
> want to change you news client to something else as well. While
> Thundebird may not be the best out there it is free and less prone to
> security problems that plague Outleak Exploder.
>

Firefox is great once all the right extentions are installed, especially
Flashblock and AdBlock. To me, no newsreader compares to slrn.

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Peter Clinch wrote:
>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, the great what, PITA?
>>
>> The great reason to use the highly effective killfile filtering available
>> in T-brid! It certainly makes a.r.b.r. a lot more worth my time with Ed
>> in the Bozo Bin where he clearly belongs
>>
>> Pete.
>
> Yeah,
> I did that on the 'from' field but Thunderbird does not have the ability
> to weed out replies to him (Dolan in body of text) or the messages posted
> to ten groups. I tried to hack it in with notepad and T-bird just bounced
> the hand made kill file.
> Ideas?
> Bill Baka

The main idea Bill Baka needs to get pounded into his thick skull is that
the should kill file himself. Here is a dunderhead who never has anything
important to say about anything. He is a master of trivia. How would you
like to live inside a mind such as his? Now there is a truly scary thought!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Ken C. M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bill Baka wrote:
>> Peter Clinch wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTW, the great what, PITA?
>>>
>>>
>>> The great reason to use the highly effective killfile filtering
>>> available in T-brid! It certainly makes a.r.b.r. a lot more worth my
>>> time with Ed in the Bozo Bin where he clearly belongs
>>>
>>> Pete.
>>
>>
>> Yeah,
>> I did that on the 'from' field but Thunderbird does not have the ability
>> to weed out replies to him (Dolan in body of text) or the messages posted
>> to ten groups. I tried to hack it in with notepad and T-bird just bounced
>> the hand made kill file.
>> Ideas?
>> Bill Baka
>
> I haven't found a way to filter in the body of the message yet. Hopefully
> someone will come up with an extension soon.
> If I find E.D. too much in one thread then I just hit ignore thread.
> The only thing about that is then I miss good posts as well.

Yes, I will draw some very good posts indeed from others because I am
provocative. The only sin on Usenet is to be dull, something that Ken could
tell us all about since he is so consistently dull. But hey, if you are dull
like Ken and only want to read other dullards, then be my guest. It is your
loss, not mine.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Matt O'Toole" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:01:51 -0700, Bill Baka wrote:
>
>> Thunderbird is not perfect but it is based on what is left of Netscape
>> and is far less likely to be hacked into than OE.
>
> Thunderbird sucks because of that stupid bar thing it uses for displaying
> quoted text. It mangles quoted text and message bodies as badly as OE
> does.
>
> Matt O.

OE does not mangle anything which is why I like it so much. You have to use
plain text only for Usenet.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota