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Re: Front shifting issues on a half-step setup

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  1. Joe LoBuglio said:

    I've read most of the postings about half-step here; I respectfully ask
    that this not become another question as to if half-step is useful or
    outdated. I'd like to give it a try and a newly acquired bike gives me
    that chance.

    I am having two problems:
    1. Shifting to inner chainring almost always causes the chain to miss
    the ring and fall inward onto the bottom bracket.
    2. When shifting from inner chainring to the middle, the chain often
    overshoots and ends up between the middle and outer. It stays on top
    and between the rings rings while I pedal. If I am lucky I can just
    nudge it one way or the other. When unlucky it wedges between the two
    rings.

    It is a 1990 Trek 520 with mostly original components. The rear is a
    12-28 hyperglide casset and the front is a 28-46-50 with round
    chainrings. (the 46 was my worn outer ring of my 21 speed mountain bike
    that is now, in its new position as a middle ring, flipped over. The
    others are Shimano rings circa 1990) I am using barcon shifters
    (indexed rear, friction front) and have a Shimano Deore II half-step
    front derailer. The chain is of unknown origin (unmarked) but looks
    like an older model (no powerlink) and measurements show it to be
    virtually unworn. All components have been cleaned and relubricated.

    Is the 46 to 28 jump just too far for reliable shifting

    No.

    Quoted message said:

    or is it an adjustment issue?

    Probably not.

    Quoted message said:

    It is wost when I am already in my 28 on the rear and
    then shift from the 46 to the 28. I've tried making the outer plate of
    the derailer more parallel to the chainrings (it was slightly inboard)
    but that hasn't helped. I've adjusted the inward stop with no avail (it
    happens even when shifting slowly so I didn't expect an improvement.) I
    suppose a chain watcher would help but that seems inelegant.

    A chain watcher would fix that issue, but I'm pretty sure the root of
    both problems is the middle chainring.

    Quoted message said:

    About the chain going between the two larger rings, is this just
    because they are so close in size?

    No.

    Quoted message said:

    If I changed the 46 to the 47, would
    that be worse? Will a new chain (8 speed PC-48) make it worse? Perhaps
    a 9 speed center chainring will solve this.

    You need a middle chainring _designed_ for the middle position. This
    will put the teeth in the right plane, and you'll have the correct bevel
    on the inner surface of the chainring.

    http://harriscyclery.com/chainrings.html

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