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Re: Double ton and GOML

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  1. "Rob Milne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I was ready to do a hill after the Saturday night 70th Birthday
    Celebration for Hamish Brown and gathering of many Marylin Hall of famers
    (and me ...)
    Time for my Corbett number 200, Ben Enaiglair. Parked at Braemore Junction
    and noted activity in front of the cottage, putting stuff in a car. Took
    the very boggy path marked along the hill side. Follows a reasonable line,
    but very boggy. (did I mention it is pretty boggy?).
    The path crosses the Home Loch at its inflow, not the outflow and meets a
    recently bulldozed new track. It was quick walking to the east bealach,
    with the approaching storm getting closer and closer. A fast walk up the
    ridge and on top in only 1 hr 30 min (guidebook time 2hr 30 min, I must be
    fit!). just managed to capture a panorama before the clag came in.
    Number 200 in the bag, only 19 left ...
    back to the bealach and adding the Graham only took 20 minutes.

    Decided to check out the landrover track from the top end to see what the
    story was. I had noticed a fire break a bit west of the cottage and
    planned to see what it was like for a by-pass.
    When you enter the forest, the estate has sheep pens across the track. The
    gate has barbed wire on it and a big sign directing walkers around, but
    was not locked. Also a beware of dogs sign! The track then goes right past
    a number of estate buildings and a cottage (empty). Dogs in their kennel.
    The track then turns a couple hundred meters clear of the lodge, but in
    full site of it. I ambled down the forest peacefully defiant, looking at
    the terrain to drop to the main road, looked fine.
    Rounded a corner and 100 yards ahead was a mother and child out for a walk
    on their 'private' road. In best paint ball style, I turned and ran back
    around the corner, hoping I wasn't spotted. I then cut down through the
    open forest to the main road. No fence to be crossed. I was surprised to
    see people, since I hadn't got to the forest break yet, turns out I was
    still about 1/3 of a mile from the cottage.
    the forest break looked fine for access to the forestry track, but
    skipping passing the cottage (if you are so inclined).
    Walked up the main road for 3 hrs 30 min rt. The Keeper was putting estate
    rubbish in the public skip at the parking from a trailer on his ATV. we
    ignored each other and I changed.
    Just when I was ready to put my wet shoes in the car and drive off, a
    Range Rover arrived at the gate by the cottage with the keeper behind. I
    calmly put my stuff in the boot. By then they had driven through the gate,
    the range rover stopping not far from the car. as I got in the car, the
    keeper drove the ATV to right next to my driver's door. I locked my car
    doors and started the engine. He stood 3 ft away staring at me as I
    started to reverse. He was so close with his ATV that I couldn't fully
    reverse, but I had then enough space to go forward and turn around. He
    never said a word, but I guess I had been seen in the forest and it took
    the lady in the Range Rover a while to get to the gate.
    I didn't really need a confrontation, so just drove off with them staring
    at me.
    If he was about to shout at me for being on the track, but always well
    away from any occupied buildings, then that is really too much!
    Seems they are pretty sensitive about 'their' forest ...

    Rob

    Hmm. It's probably wise not to annoy the landowners too much, otherwise
    they'll start campaigning to have footpaths closed, and landowners tend to
    have a fair bit of power.

    Adam


  2. Quoted message said:

    Hmm. It's probably wise not to annoy the landowners too much, otherwise
    they'll start campaigning to have footpaths closed, and landowners tend to
    have a fair bit of power.

    Adam


    Err

    a few pointlets oh forelock tugger

    a) Beinn Enaiglair is in Scotland
    b) Its already closed the path so sucking up is not really working is
    it?
    c) the path in question is on open access Forestry Commision land..

    Stay servile, stay safe

    Have a good one

    Richard Webb

  3. "RJ Webb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Hmm. It's probably wise not to annoy the landowners too much, otherwise
    they'll start campaigning to have footpaths closed, and landowners tend


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have a fair bit of power.

    Adam


    Err

    a few pointlets oh forelock tugger

    a) Beinn Enaiglair is in Scotland
    b) Its already closed the path so sucking up is not really working is
    it?
    c) the path in question is on open access Forestry Commision land..

    Stay servile, stay safe

    Have a good one

    Richard Webb

    I do know where Beinn Enaiglair is.

    It just sounded from the original post that the walker went across some
    private land. Was he actually on open access land all the time, even when
    walking past the estate buildings. If so, why did he get approached by the
    keeper.

    Adam


  4. Quoted message said:

    It just sounded from the original post that the walker went across some
    private land. Was he actually on open access land all the time, even when
    walking past the estate buildings. If so, why did he get approached by the
    keeper.

    Yes he did go across some private land.. Almost all of Scotland is
    privately owned, we do it all the time. The whole of Beinn Enaiglair
    other than the disputed area is private land.

    The problem here is that the disputed land is a) a long used
    traditional route to a few hills
    b) the only sensible route
    c) the land in question is Forestry Commission owned. Or the OS are
    putting purple [censored] in a random fashion.

    It seems that they want you away from the new lodge, strange tens of
    millions of us have footpaths called pavements past our door.. blimey
    I even share my staircase. OK I can live with that, avoiding the
    lodge is easy and the route given by Rob avioided habitation, stayed
    on state owned land, and still the intimidation brigade had a go. Bad
    move, it generates publicity. The press up here are often quite
    interested in gomls.

    This is becoming a pattern. The other, now resolved, blackspot in
    recent years, Gameshope in Selkirkshire, was also someone living on
    the edge of a Forestry Comission plot assaulting folk in the forest.
    Perhaps there is a perception that state owned means owned by no one,
    so its up for grabs?

    Richard Webb

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