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  1. Re: Effects of trace components of dietary fat on cholesterol
    metabolism: Phytosterols, oxysterols, and squalene. Nutrition
    Reviews, Nov 2002 by Ostlund, Richard E Jr, Racette, Susan B,
    Stenson, William F

    "If the researchers want to say that one should avoid foods high in
    squalene because this will have the effect of raising cholesterol,
    they should say it."

    They don't, because there is to date insufficient evidence, only
    positive suspicion.

    This is one of the things they did say: "Because many studies of
    monounsaturates were conducted with olive oil as the test material,
    it would be important to define further the role of its squalene
    component."

    For a scientist looking for a useful project to start, those are
    golden words!

  2. Scientists are supposed to start with a hypothesis, which can then be
    tested. When it comes to the food that people eat, there are so many
    components hitting the body at the same time it is difficult to
    determine the "cause." What I have pointed out on this newsgroup many
    times is that "olive oil" is not one thing. Some olive oils are highly
    refined and very dangerous to the body due to the probability of excess
    lipid peroxidation. Fresh, high-quality, uncooked olive oil is on the
    other end of the health sprectrum. The other problem is using terms or
    phrases in an unscientific way, for example, blaming "cholesterol" for
    the effects of oxysterols. Then there is the classfication problem,
    calling lard and coconut oil "saturated fats," when doing so makes no
    sense whatsoever, and contradicts the only hypothesis that does make
    sense at this point, whether one calls it the "free radical theory of
    aging" or whatever. There are much more interesting
    studies/experiments involving olive oil (MMu has pointed out why this
    study is rather strange), for example:

    © 2004 The American Society for Nutritional Sciences J. Nutr.
    134:2314-2321, September 2004
    Human Nutrition and Metabolism
    Olive Oils High in Phenolic Compounds Modulate Oxidative/Antioxidative
    Status in Men1
    Tanja Weinbrenner*, Montserrat Fitó*, Rafael de la Torre,, Guillermo
    T. Saez, Philip Rijken, Carmen Tormos, Stefan Coolen, Magí Farré
    Albaladejo,**, Sergio Abanades**, Helmut Schroder*, Jaume Marrugat*,**
    and Maria-Isabel Covas*,2

    2To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: [email hidden].

    The aim of the present study was to evaluate whether olive oils high in
    phenolic compounds influence the oxidative/antioxidative status in
    humans. Healthy men (n = 12) participated in a double-blind,
    randomized, crossover study in which 3 olive oils with low (LPC),
    moderate (MPC), and high (HPC) phenolic content were given as raw doses
    (25 mL/d) for 4 consecutive days preceded by 10-d washout periods.
    Volunteers followed a strict very low-antioxidant diet the 3 d before
    and during the intervention periods. Short-term consumption of olive
    oils decreased plasma oxidized LDL (oxLDL), 8-oxo-dG in mitochondrial
    DNA and urine, malondialdehyde in urine (P < 0.05 for linear trend),
    and increased HDL cholesterol and glutathione peroxidase activity (P <
    0.05 for linear trend), in a dose-dependent manner with the phenolic
    content of the olive oil administered. At d 4, oxLDL after MPC and HPC,
    and 8-oxo-dG after HPC administration (25 mL, respectively), were
    reduced when the men were in the postprandial state (P < 0.05).
    Phenolic compounds in plasma increased dose dependently during this
    stage with the phenolic content of the olive oils at 1, 2, 4, and 6 h,
    respectively (P < 0.01). Their concentrations increased in plasma and
    urine samples in a dose-dependent manner after short-term consumption
    of the olive oils (P < 0.01). In conclusion, the olive oil phenolic
    content modulated the oxidative/antioxidative status of healthy men who
    consumed a very low-antioxidant diet.
    http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/134/9/2314

    © 2004 The American Society for Nutritional Sciences J. Nutr.
    134:2133S-2140S, August 2004
    Supplement: WALTHAM International Science Symposium: Nature, Nurture,
    and the Case for Nutrition
    Application of the Comet Assay for Investigation of Oxidative DNA
    Damage in Equine Peripheral Blood Mononuclear Cells1,2
    David J. Marlin3, Lucy Johnson, Demelza A. Kingston, Nicola C. Smith,
    Chris M. Deaton, Sarah Mann, Paul Heaton, Fenneke Van Vugt, Kelly
    Saunders*, Julia Kydd* and Pat A. Harris

    Centers for Equine Studies and * Preventive Medicine, Animal Health
    Trust, Kentford, Newmarket, Suffolk, CB8 7UU, UK and Equine Studies
    Group, WALTHAM Centre for Pet Nutrition, Waltham-on-the-Wolds,
    Leicestershire LE14 4RT, UK

    3 To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail:
    [email hidden].

    Oxidative stress occurs when antioxidant defense mechanisms are
    overwhelmed by free radicals and may lead to DNA damage, which has been
    implicated in processes such as aging and diseases such as cancer. The
    two main techniques presently used to quantify DNA damage are
    measurement of 8-hydroxydeoxyguanosine and the Comet assay (also known
    as single-cell gel electrophoresis). The aim of this study was to apply
    the comet assay to equine peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs)
    and identify two conditions in which we hypothesized that oxidative DNA
    damage would be increased in PBMCs: aging and equine recurrent airway
    obstruction (RAO, a condition similar to human asthma). The images
    obtained were similar to those previously published for humans, cats,
    and dogs. The optimum concentration of H2O2 to estimate susceptibility
    to exogenous damage was 50 µM. Mean intraassay coefficients of
    variation were 4.7 and 9.7% for endogenous and exogenous tail-DNA
    quantities, respectively, and 7.3 and 8.3%, respectively, for
    interassay coefficients. There was no significant difference in either
    endogenous or exogenous percentages of tail DNA for samples collected
    from six ponies on three consecutive days. There was no significant
    difference in endogenous, exogenous, or exogenous (corrected for
    endogenous) oxidative DNA damage between mature and aged ponies.
    However, young pony foals had significantly less endogenous DNA damage
    than mature or aged ponies (P < 0.05). RAO-affected horses without
    airway inflammation (i.e., in clinical remission) had significantly
    greater endogenous damage compared with non-RAO-affected control
    animals (P = 0.009). There was a significant correlation between
    endogenous percentage of tail DNA in PBMCs and red blood cell
    hemolysate glutathione concentration (r = 0.720; P < 0.001). In
    conclusion, the comet assay appears to be suitable for investigating
    DNA damage in equine PBMCs.

    http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/134/8/2133S

    The study below suggests that free radical amount is more important
    than antioxidant amount:

    Cancer Epidemiology Biomarkers & Prevention Vol. 12, 1016-1022, October
    2003
    © 2003 American Association for Cancer Research

    No Effect of 600 Grams Fruit and Vegetables Per Day on Oxidative DNA
    Damage and Repair in Healthy Nonsmokers1
    Peter Møller2, Ulla Vogel, Anette Pedersen, Lars O. Dragsted,
    Brittmarie Sandström3 and Steffen Loft

    Institute of Public Health, University of Copenhagen, DK-2200
    Copenhagen N, Denmark [P. M., S. L.]; National Institute of
    Occupational Health, Denmark [U. V.]; Research Department of Human
    Nutrition, Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University, Frederiksberg,
    Denmark [A. P., B. S.]; and Institute of Food Safety and Nutrition,
    Danish Veterinary and Food Administration, Søborg, Denmark [L. O. D.]

    In several epidemiological studies, high intakes of fruits and
    vegetables have been associated with a lower incidence of cancer.
    Theoretically, intake of antioxidants by consumption of fruits and
    vegetables should protect against reactive oxygen species and decrease
    the formation of oxidative DNA damage. We set up a parallel 24-day
    dietary placebo-controlled intervention study in which 43 subjects were
    randomized into three groups receiving an antioxidant-free basal diet
    and 600 g of fruits and vegetables, or a supplement containing the
    corresponding amounts of vitamins and minerals, or placebo. Blood and
    urine samples were collected before, once a week, and 4 weeks after the
    intervention period. The level of strand breaks, endonuclease III
    sites, formamidopyrimidine sites, and sensitivity to hydrogen peroxide
    was assessed in mononuclear blood cells by the comet assay. Excretion
    of 7-hydro-8-oxo-2'-deoxyguanine was measured in urine. The expressions
    of oxoguanine glycosylase 1 and excision repair cross complementing 1
    DNA repair genes, determined by real-time reverse transcription-PCR of
    mRNAs, were investigated in leukocytes. Consumption of fruits and
    vegetables or vitamins and minerals had no effect on oxidative DNA
    damage measured in mononuclear cell DNA or urine. Hydrogen peroxide
    sensitivity, detected by the comet assay, did not differ between the
    groups. Expression of excision repair cross complementing 1 and
    oxoguanine glycosylase 1 in leukocytes was not related to the diet
    consumed. Our results show that after 24 days of complete depletion of
    fruits and vegetables, or daily ingestion of 600 g of fruit and
    vegetables, or the corresponding amount of vitamins and minerals, the
    level of oxidative DNA damage was unchanged. This suggests that the
    inherent antioxidant defense mechanisms are sufficient to protect
    circulating mononuclear blood cells from reactive oxygen species.

    http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/12/10/1016

  3. Some olive oils are extracted with solvents that are felt to evaporate
    afterwards.

    "montygram" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    Scientists are supposed to start with a hypothesis, which can then be
    tested. When it comes to the food that people eat, there are so many
    components hitting the body at the same time it is difficult to
    determine the "cause." What I have pointed out on this newsgroup many
    times is that "olive oil" is not one thing. Some olive oils are highly
    refined and very dangerous to the body due to the probability of excess
    lipid peroxidation. Fresh, high-quality, uncooked olive oil is on the
    other end of the health sprectrum. The other problem is using terms or
    phrases in an unscientific way, for example, blaming "cholesterol" for
    the effects of oxysterols. Then there is the classfication problem,
    calling lard and coconut oil "saturated fats," when doing so makes no
    sense whatsoever, and contradicts the only hypothesis that does make
    sense at this point, whether one calls it the "free radical theory of
    aging" or whatever. There are much more interesting
    studies/experiments involving olive oil (MMu has pointed out why this
    study is rather strange), for example:

    © 2004 The American Society for Nutritional Sciences J. Nutr.
    134:2314-2321, September 2004
    Human Nutrition and Metabolism
    Olive Oils High in Phenolic Compounds Modulate Oxidative/Antioxidative
    Status in Men1
    Tanja Weinbrenner*, Montserrat Fitó*, Rafael de la Torre,, Guillermo
    T. Saez, Philip Rijken, Carmen Tormos, Stefan Coolen, Magí Farré
    Albaladejo,**, Sergio Abanades**, Helmut Schroder*, Jaume Marrugat*,**
    and Maria-Isabel Covas*,2

    2To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: [email hidden].

    The aim of the present study was to evaluate whether olive oils high in
    phenolic compounds influence the oxidative/antioxidative status in
    humans. Healthy men (n = 12) participated in a double-blind,
    randomized, crossover study in which 3 olive oils with low (LPC),
    moderate (MPC), and high (HPC) phenolic content were given as raw doses
    (25 mL/d) for 4 consecutive days preceded by 10-d washout periods.
    Volunteers followed a strict very low-antioxidant diet the 3 d before
    and during the intervention periods. Short-term consumption of olive
    oils decreased plasma oxidized LDL (oxLDL), 8-oxo-dG in mitochondrial
    DNA and urine, malondialdehyde in urine (P < 0.05 for linear trend),
    and increased HDL cholesterol and glutathione peroxidase activity (P <
    0.05 for linear trend), in a dose-dependent manner with the phenolic
    content of the olive oil administered. At d 4, oxLDL after MPC and HPC,
    and 8-oxo-dG after HPC administration (25 mL, respectively), were
    reduced when the men were in the postprandial state (P < 0.05).
    Phenolic compounds in plasma increased dose dependently during this
    stage with the phenolic content of the olive oils at 1, 2, 4, and 6 h,
    respectively (P < 0.01). Their concentrations increased in plasma and
    urine samples in a dose-dependent manner after short-term consumption
    of the olive oils (P < 0.01). In conclusion, the olive oil phenolic
    content modulated the oxidative/antioxidative status of healthy men who
    consumed a very low-antioxidant diet.
    http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/134/9/2314

    © 2004 The American Society for Nutritional Sciences J. Nutr.
    134:2133S-2140S, August 2004
    Supplement: WALTHAM International Science Symposium: Nature, Nurture,
    and the Case for Nutrition
    Application of the Comet Assay for Investigation of Oxidative DNA
    Damage in Equine Peripheral Blood Mononuclear Cells1,2
    David J. Marlin3, Lucy Johnson, Demelza A. Kingston, Nicola C. Smith,
    Chris M. Deaton, Sarah Mann, Paul Heaton, Fenneke Van Vugt, Kelly
    Saunders*, Julia Kydd* and Pat A. Harris

    Centers for Equine Studies and * Preventive Medicine, Animal Health
    Trust, Kentford, Newmarket, Suffolk, CB8 7UU, UK and Equine Studies
    Group, WALTHAM Centre for Pet Nutrition, Waltham-on-the-Wolds,
    Leicestershire LE14 4RT, UK

    3 To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail:
    [email hidden].

    Oxidative stress occurs when antioxidant defense mechanisms are
    overwhelmed by free radicals and may lead to DNA damage, which has been
    implicated in processes such as aging and diseases such as cancer. The
    two main techniques presently used to quantify DNA damage are
    measurement of 8-hydroxydeoxyguanosine and the Comet assay (also known
    as single-cell gel electrophoresis). The aim of this study was to apply
    the comet assay to equine peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs)
    and identify two conditions in which we hypothesized that oxidative DNA
    damage would be increased in PBMCs: aging and equine recurrent airway
    obstruction (RAO, a condition similar to human asthma). The images
    obtained were similar to those previously published for humans, cats,
    and dogs. The optimum concentration of H2O2 to estimate susceptibility
    to exogenous damage was 50 µM. Mean intraassay coefficients of
    variation were 4.7 and 9.7% for endogenous and exogenous tail-DNA
    quantities, respectively, and 7.3 and 8.3%, respectively, for
    interassay coefficients. There was no significant difference in either
    endogenous or exogenous percentages of tail DNA for samples collected
    from six ponies on three consecutive days. There was no significant
    difference in endogenous, exogenous, or exogenous (corrected for
    endogenous) oxidative DNA damage between mature and aged ponies.
    However, young pony foals had significantly less endogenous DNA damage
    than mature or aged ponies (P < 0.05). RAO-affected horses without
    airway inflammation (i.e., in clinical remission) had significantly
    greater endogenous damage compared with non-RAO-affected control
    animals (P = 0.009). There was a significant correlation between
    endogenous percentage of tail DNA in PBMCs and red blood cell
    hemolysate glutathione concentration (r = 0.720; P < 0.001). In
    conclusion, the comet assay appears to be suitable for investigating
    DNA damage in equine PBMCs.

    http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/134/8/2133S

    The study below suggests that free radical amount is more important
    than antioxidant amount:

    Cancer Epidemiology Biomarkers & Prevention Vol. 12, 1016-1022, October
    2003
    © 2003 American Association for Cancer Research

    No Effect of 600 Grams Fruit and Vegetables Per Day on Oxidative DNA
    Damage and Repair in Healthy Nonsmokers1
    Peter Møller2, Ulla Vogel, Anette Pedersen, Lars O. Dragsted,
    Brittmarie Sandström3 and Steffen Loft

    Institute of Public Health, University of Copenhagen, DK-2200
    Copenhagen N, Denmark [P. M., S. L.]; National Institute of
    Occupational Health, Denmark [U. V.]; Research Department of Human
    Nutrition, Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University, Frederiksberg,
    Denmark [A. P., B. S.]; and Institute of Food Safety and Nutrition,
    Danish Veterinary and Food Administration, Søborg, Denmark [L. O. D.]

    In several epidemiological studies, high intakes of fruits and
    vegetables have been associated with a lower incidence of cancer.
    Theoretically, intake of antioxidants by consumption of fruits and
    vegetables should protect against reactive oxygen species and decrease
    the formation of oxidative DNA damage. We set up a parallel 24-day
    dietary placebo-controlled intervention study in which 43 subjects were
    randomized into three groups receiving an antioxidant-free basal diet
    and 600 g of fruits and vegetables, or a supplement containing the
    corresponding amounts of vitamins and minerals, or placebo. Blood and
    urine samples were collected before, once a week, and 4 weeks after the
    intervention period. The level of strand breaks, endonuclease III
    sites, formamidopyrimidine sites, and sensitivity to hydrogen peroxide
    was assessed in mononuclear blood cells by the comet assay. Excretion
    of 7-hydro-8-oxo-2'-deoxyguanine was measured in urine. The expressions
    of oxoguanine glycosylase 1 and excision repair cross complementing 1
    DNA repair genes, determined by real-time reverse transcription-PCR of
    mRNAs, were investigated in leukocytes. Consumption of fruits and
    vegetables or vitamins and minerals had no effect on oxidative DNA
    damage measured in mononuclear cell DNA or urine. Hydrogen peroxide
    sensitivity, detected by the comet assay, did not differ between the
    groups. Expression of excision repair cross complementing 1 and
    oxoguanine glycosylase 1 in leukocytes was not related to the diet
    consumed. Our results show that after 24 days of complete depletion of
    fruits and vegetables, or daily ingestion of 600 g of fruit and
    vegetables, or the corresponding amount of vitamins and minerals, the
    level of oxidative DNA damage was unchanged. This suggests that the
    inherent antioxidant defense mechanisms are sufficient to protect
    circulating mononuclear blood cells from reactive oxygen species.

    http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/12/10/1016

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