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  1. Quoted message said:

    A publication in the February, 2003 issue of the American
    Journal of Clinical Nutrition (Vol. 77, No. 2, 504-511)
    clearly demonstrates that eighteen years of milk consumption
    did not prevent hip fractures for post-menopausal women.

    Why would you think it might? If a person drinks milk for 18 years and then
    stops why would anyone expect it to continue to protect them them for the rest
    of their life.

    Did you ever hear of the MDR for calcium? It means minimum daily requirement.
    Not for 18 years only.

    Ora

  2. We should have known.

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    On 24 Nov 2005 12:36:06 -0800, [email hidden]


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    Ora

  3. For women in menopausal stage, their mean issue is the decrease in
    estrogen levels. This sudden drop disrupts many chemical reactions in
    the body. Bone density can quickly diminish, no matter how well
    supplemented a person is. The difference is how much the person can
    afford to lose before the whole structure collapses.

    A person who drink three glass of milk daily before the age of thirty
    with proper nutrition from all possible sources (Vit D & K, Omega 3
    acid, Isoflavone, magnesium, phosphorus & fluorine) to aid bone
    osteoblast will achieve optimal bone density. Beyond thirty, it is
    maintenance. The chemistry of bone building is a complex one. It is
    governed by genetic issues, proper diet nutrition, physiological
    conditions & weight bearing exercise.

    The number one issue in the west is protein overdose. You can't be
    drinking more than 3 glasses of milk... then you eat ice cream, yogurt,
    poultry, soya, eggs... Too much protein can disrupt bone matrix
    binding. This kind of diet imbalance poses great danger for menopausal
    individuals. The limit protein intake is 0.8g per kg of body weight.
    Milk itself has protein. So if you drink milk for every meal... then
    you should regulate other sources of protein. This is a game of
    complementing & substituting. Perhaps should use meat as condiment...
    eat eggs, seafoods, fishes.. only two to three times a week..

    When you talk about proper nutrition, it is not just eating a
    supplement or taking a particular food. Proper, optimal nutrition is
    about synergistic blendings. You need to know what works with what &
    what contradicts what. Don't be surprised.. people drinking lots of
    milk or talking megadoses of calcium still fracture. They simply lack
    other ingredients in the nutrition synergy. Without magnesium, calcium
    will end up in places it should not have gone. Without Vitamin D, our
    intestines can't uptake calcium. If you take calcium supplements with
    cereal, calcium absorption is blocked. Bone mineralisation requires
    phophorus, Vit K & Flourine too. You also need other supportive agents
    like omega-3 fatty acids & isoflovones, especially for menopausal
    women. Before rushing to buy supplements or eating some functional
    foods, we should check our diet & work towards supplementing our diet.
    Nutrition is diet.

    Animal sources, i.e. mlik calcium, sardine & salmon with soft bones,
    remain the undisputed most readily absorbable form, compared to plant
    sources. Lots of plants has high calcium but more than 60% is not
    absorbed. Something is wrong with the way we construct our daily diet
    to cause shocking research outcomes in the recent studies. Those
    research of statistics are factual but it reveals something more
    worrying than not benefiting from milk or supplementation. What are
    people eating daily? What is their overall nutrition status?

    Matthias Robin [censored] Heng Teck
    Undergraduate Student
    Bachelor of Science in Human Nutrition
    Kansas State University

  4. I just forgot to mention nutrition too. Nutrition & exercise goes hand.
    Exercise is an integral part of any nutrition programme. The body is
    able to mineralised & metabolised many nutrients at optimal level with
    proper exercise. In the case of bone health, no amount of medication,
    diet therapy & supplementation will be of any benefit with weight
    bearing, aerobic or yoga exercises.

    You may want to check up on certain medication with your doctor.

    1. Estrogen receptor modulator, i.e. Raloxifene
    Prevents bone loss. May cause blood clots in certain women.

    2. Alendronate, Risdronate or Biphosphonates
    Slows break down of bone, may increase bone density

    3. Calcitonin, natural occurring hormone
    Increases bone mass in the spine.

    4. Sodium fluoride, Parathyroid hormone (PTH), some forms of vitamin D.

    Avoid alcohol & cigerette smoking which affects bone health.

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