The point is that an adequately trained driver would know how much distance to give cyclists. This is the case in most of Europe.
It'll take a couple of generations to realise the benefits but raising the bar for driver education should be a priority.
Well, I wasn't adequately trained in this respect. Who was, who learned to drive anywhere in Australia?
Which is my point. I was trained in the UK. Further when I served in Germany I had to take a test to ensure I knew the road rules there.
In Germany, as in much of Europe, the default rule is priority to the right. A number of scenarios were presented to us with vehicles and their intended directions depicted at junctions. What was most telling was that cyclists featured prominently as vehicles. -- Cheers Euan
The point is that an adequately trained driver would know how much distance to give cyclists. This is the case in most of Europe.
It'll take a couple of generations to realise the benefits but raising the bar for driver education should be a priority.
Well, I wasn't adequately trained in this respect. Who was, who learned to drive anywhere in Australia?
Which is my point. I was trained in the UK. Further when I served in Germany I had to take a test to ensure I knew the road rules there.
In Germany, as in much of Europe, the default rule is priority to the right. A number of scenarios were presented to us with vehicles and their intended directions depicted at junctions. What was most telling was that cyclists featured prominently as vehicles.
Which is all very fine and well, but what about "now" rather than in some arbitary time in the future once (if) this altered culture starts to take hold?
> The point is that an adequately trained driver would know how > much distance to give cyclists. This is the case in most of > Europe. > > It'll take a couple of generations to realise the benefits but > raising the bar for driver education should be a priority.
Well, I wasn't adequately trained in this respect. Who was, who learned to drive anywhere in Australia?
Which is my point. I was trained in the UK. Further when I served in Germany I had to take a test to ensure I knew the road rules there.
In Germany, as in much of Europe, the default rule is priority to the right. A number of scenarios were presented to us with vehicles and their intended directions depicted at junctions. What was most telling was that cyclists featured prominently as vehicles.
Which is all very fine and well, but what about "now" rather than in some arbitary time in the future once (if) this altered culture starts to take hold?
I don't understand your question. The thread concerns what we may do to make the future better. How is that related to the present? -- Cheers Euan
beerwolf wrote: > EuanB wrote: > > >> The point is that an adequately trained driver would know how >> much distance to give cyclists. This is the case in most of >> Europe. >> >> It'll take a couple of generations to realise the benefits but >> raising the bar for driver education should be a priority. > > Well, I wasn't adequately trained in this respect. Who was, who > learned to drive anywhere in Australia? Which is my point. I was trained in the UK. Further when I served in Germany I had to take a test to ensure I knew the road rules there.
In Germany, as in much of Europe, the default rule is priority to the right. A number of scenarios were presented to us with vehicles and their intended directions depicted at junctions. What was most telling was that cyclists featured prominently as vehicles.
Which is all very fine and well, but what about "now" rather than in some arbitary time in the future once (if) this altered culture starts to take hold?
I don't understand your question. The thread concerns what we may do to make the future better. How is that related to the present?
Driver training/culture shift takes a -long- time (a generation?), but painting lines on roads is quick and easy. That's what I mean. As you point out (and I have to take your word for it) it's better elsewhere, where the culture is less car-centric, but that sort of change, *if* it can be made here, takes a long time to happen.
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Driver training/culture shift takes a -long- time (a generation?), but painting lines on roads is quick and easy. That's what I mean. As you point out (and I have to take your word for it) it's better elsewhere, where the culture is less car-centric, but that sort of change, *if* it can be made here, takes a long time to happen.
Also, painting lines on roads is a form of ongoing education. Whereas anything taught by driving instructors or included in RTA tests is over when the driver gets his/her full licence.
