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Re: Chelation Clinical Trials

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  1. http://www.holistic-online.com/Chelation/chel_clinical_trials.htm

    Clinical Trials/Results

    Chelation therapy is backed by a large number of testimonials and experiments
    that shows the effectivity of this therapy. Many of these were not
    scientifically conducted (such as a double blind study). Chelation therapists
    rightfully point out that it is hard to give a placebo when administering the
    compound (especially from the therapist as is required for the double blind
    study).

    Therapists point out that about 500,000 chelation therapies are being done in
    the USA alone every year and the patients are very happy, placebo effect or
    not. Rosenfeld, author of "Guide to Alternative Medicine" talked about two of
    his patients whose condition has improved substantially after the chelation
    therapy, although he could not clinically identify what was different about
    them. Chelation therapy saves considerable amount of money. A typical chelation
    therapy cost about $3000 compared to a bypass surgery at about $30,000. There
    is not much risk in chelation therapy as compared to the surgery.

    A review of treatment results from 2,870 patients in Brazil found significant
    improvement in patients with heart disease or peripheral vascular disease who
    were treated with chelation therapy. 76.9 percent of the heart patients treated
    reported "marked improvement" and another 16.6 percent reported "good
    improvement". The results were even better for the patients who were treated
    for peripheral vascular disease. 91 percent showed "marked" improvement and 7.6
    percent showed "good" improvement. So, 96-98 percent of the patients treated
    reported improvement after chelation therapy.

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Chelation Clinical Trials
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 11/30/2003 2:38 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Clinical Trials/Results

    Quoted message said:

    Many of these were not
    scientifically conducted (such as a

    Quoted message said:

    double blind study). Chelation therapists
    rightfully point out that it is hard to give a placebo when administering the
    compound (especially from the therapist as is required for the double blind
    study).


    so thus...there were NO clinical trials

    hmmm there is another way....do angiograms on two sets of patients..that will
    document the PRE treatment state of the coronary arteries..

    do chelation on one group..and say angioplasty and stents on the second

    THEN to post treatment angios on BOTH groups....hmmmm surely should tell if
    group 1 or group 2 showed a change

    no....

    Quoted message said:

    Chelation therapy is backed by a large number of testimonials and experiments

    those don't count....I could say the moon is made up green cheese..and probably
    you would believe me...

    Quoted message said:

    Therapists point out that about 500,000 chelation therapies are being done in
    the USA alone every year and the patients are very happy, placebo effect or
    not. Rosenfeld, author of "Guide to

    hmmm..no mention if the treatment is for heavy metals....or coronary artery
    disease...or didn't you notice that

    and did you also not notice the "very happy,,placebo effect or not" statement??

    Quoted message said:

    although he could not clinically identify what was different about
    them. Chelation therapy saves

    of course not...but they SAID they felt better....ahhhh....

    Quoted message said:

    There
    is not much risk in chelation therapy as compared to the surgery.

    there is also not much evidence that the coronary arteries would be in better
    shape either...you missed that too..

    as per the Brazil group...do you not know that "peripheral vascular" and
    "coronary artery" disease are two different pathophysiologies..

    course not...how would YOU know such a basic fact of human physiology...

    that level of knowledge is not taught in the highest level of school you
    attended

    hawki

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