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Re: Change of mind

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  1. Tom Crispin wrote on 14/04/2007 10:52 +0100:

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    That argument implies that my climbing helmet does little to protect
    against falling rocks. However, it helps to protect my head against
    cuts and fractures.

    That's because your climbing helmet has a thick hard outer shell to
    prevent sharp edges hitting your skull. Such edges would go straight
    through a polystyrene cycle helmet and if you think the hard shell is
    going to help, try taking it off - its as thick as paper. Try hitting
    your climbing helmet with an axe and then try your cycle helmet.

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    I would never say that a parent is wrong to insist their child wears
    a helmet.


    If it is an informed choice. An uninformed or worse, misinformed choice
    is different. Do you unquestioningly accept parents' decisions in all
    other areas of your activity?

    Yes. The consent form says: "I give consent for my child to take part
    in on-road cycle training". If the parent signs, I accept that
    decision without question. I no longer ask for consent for playground
    cycle training, though I do send a letter home informing parents.

    That is not answering the question I asked. If a parent wrote to you
    and said they did not want their child playing in the playground during
    break because they might get injured and they were a perfectly normal
    and healthy child would you accept their request without question?

    --
    Tony

    "The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
    is no good evidence either way."
    - Bertrand Russell

  2. Tony Raven said:
    Quoted message said:

    That argument implies that my climbing helmet does little to protect
    against falling rocks. However, it helps to protect my head against
    cuts and fractures.

    That's because your climbing helmet has a thick hard outer shell to
    prevent sharp edges hitting your skull. Such edges would go straight
    through a polystyrene cycle helmet and if you think the hard shell is
    going to help, try taking it off - its as thick as paper. Try hitting
    your climbing helmet with an axe and then try your cycle helmet.

    If I did that I'd ruin one good helmet and spoil the other. ;-)

    I expect my ice axe would pierce my climbing helmet and embed in my
    cycle helmet, either all the way through or partially through.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes. The consent form says: "I give consent for my child to take part
    in on-road cycle training". If the parent signs, I accept that
    decision without question. I no longer ask for consent for playground
    cycle training, though I do send a letter home informing parents.

    That is not answering the question I asked. If a parent wrote to you
    and said they did not want their child playing in the playground during
    break because they might get injured and they were a perfectly normal
    and healthy child would you accept their request without question?

    That situation has never happened, and is not likely to happen. We've
    had such requests, but a reason has always been supplied or obvious,
    such as a broken leg.

    I thought your question related directly to cycling activities.

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