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  1. "knobster" <[email hidden]/forum/> wrote in message
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    Wondering what people out there do about those a**holes that like to
    screw with bikers. Anyone got some good stories? I got hit with a
    skoal can the other day. Stupid red neck.

    For a second I thought you said you got hit with a scone and I was wondering
    how you knew he was a redneck. I had a hoagie (sub) thrown at me once, as
    well as other sundry items, words, blared horns and squeezes. If I catch up
    to them I'll often get in their face. I admire guys who can keep their
    digits on the brake hoods. I just started carrying pepper spray too, but
    that's supposed to be for beasts.

  2. "Jim Flom " wrote

    Quoted message said:

    For a second I thought you said you got hit with a scone and I was
    wondering how you knew he was a redneck. I had a hoagie (sub) thrown at
    me once, as well as other sundry items, words, blared horns and squeezes.
    If I catch up to them I'll often get in their face. I admire guys who can
    keep their digits on the brake hoods. I just started carrying pepper
    spray too, but that's supposed to be for beasts.


    A few things to know about with pepper spray:
    1. Sometimes it doesn't stop your assailant, it just pisses him/her/it off
    in a really big way.

    2. Find out what local law says about what your allowed to do to defend
    yourself, and contact local authorities to find out what they consider to be
    justifiable use of pepper spray or any other weapon. If you can't prove that
    your attacker intended to hurt you, you just might find yourself in trouble
    with the law.

    3. Be very sure the wind is in your favor (you knew that, didn't you?).

    4. Google "Mace" for a wide range of pepper spray self defense items.
    --
    mark

  3. Jim Flom said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wondering what people out there do about those a**holes that like
    to screw with bikers. Anyone got some good stories? I got hit
    with a skoal can the other day. Stupid red neck.

    Quoted message said:

    For a second I thought you said you got hit with a scone and I was
    wondering how you knew he was a redneck. I had a hoagie (sub)
    thrown at me once, as well as other sundry items, words, blared
    horns and squeezes. If I catch up to them I'll often get in their
    face. I admire guys who can keep their digits on the brake hoods.
    I just started carrying pepper spray too, but that's supposed to be
    for beasts.

    With that attitude, we can begin to get into the minds of the big
    three in Iraq who don't want to forget past injustices and need to get
    even. You can't get even, you can just lower the standard for all in
    that pursuit. Retribution is a mental state in a downward spiral.
    This calls for diplomacy and education on both sides.

    On my New Idria spring bicycle ride I was greatly impressed by the
    courtesy of the off-road M/C riders, whether on their bikes or in
    their trucks, when we we met them while climbing steep dirt roads.
    They waited to pass downhill until we had cleared tight spots or where
    the road got wider going up.

    I am also certain that some "truckers" are incorrigible. I am
    concerned with the plethora of American flags on these trucks and
    their fresh Bush - Cheney stickers that seem to get replaced often.

    Jobst Brandt

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    Jim Flom said:

    For a second I thought you said you got hit with a scone and I was
    wondering how you knew he was a redneck. I had a hoagie (sub)
    thrown at me once, as well as other sundry items, words, blared
    horns and squeezes. If I catch up to them I'll often get in their
    face. I admire guys who can keep their digits on the brake hoods.
    I just started carrying pepper spray too, but that's supposed to be
    for beasts.

    With that attitude, we can begin to get into the minds of the big
    three in Iraq who don't want to forget past injustices and need to get
    even. You can't get even, you can just lower the standard for all in
    that pursuit. Retribution is a mental state in a downward spiral.
    This calls for diplomacy and education on both sides.

    I would love to go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what
    peace there may be in silence. I just don't do that in the moment. I had a
    teammate once that chased down a real d-head to a stop sign, and
    continuously called him an a-hole straight to his face, while the guy tried
    to tell us he had a son who is a pro and lives in Austin, TX. This
    teammate... sorry, you'd have to know him. It was just hilarious. Sure,
    things can escalate. Heck, even a pro who lives in Austin flipped off a
    guy. I should hasten to qualify my original post to say I should have added
    a winky smiley to my pepper spray comment. I did just start carrying it,
    not for people but for critters.

    However, appeals for diplomacy and education are well and good, but
    education seems so often the educator's mantra for correcting the world's
    ills. Education won't change hearts though, and IMHO it's more a heart
    issue than a lack of facts issue. I did say I admire the guys who can keep
    their digits on their brake hoods. Mine just pops up when someone pops off.
    I try to put it down but it just pops up! I wish it were different, and
    _sometimes_ I grit my teeth and cuss the guy under my breath, fingers
    securely wrapped, white-knuckled, upon the bar. Once I gave a two handed
    salute to a carload of guys (and why are they so often young male drivers,
    and white ones I might add?), who pulled over at the skatepark just up the
    road. We then waved to each other.

    Another time I caught up to a d-head who had blared his horn at me, with his
    girlfriend riding shotgun and his side-kick in the back. They'd pulled over
    to get some beer. I pulled over to hydrate. I could've avoided them, but I
    decided to drink my whatever-it-was right next to their car. They did their
    nudge-nudge, wink-wink, look over snicker giggle comment to each other thing
    and I just started talking to them. That was "getting in their face." I
    wasn't terribly diplomatic either. I simply educated (;-)) them about the
    law and my right to the road and finished with some lame "share the road"
    platitude. Maybe I called him a putz.

    Quoted message said:

    On my New Idria spring bicycle ride I was greatly impressed by the
    courtesy of the off-road M/C riders, whether on their bikes or in
    their trucks, when we we met them while climbing steep dirt roads.
    They waited to pass downhill until we had cleared tight spots or where
    the road got wider going up.

    This is the practice of most drivers where I live, and I usually wave to
    them whenever courtesy is extended.

    Quoted message said:

    I am also certain that some "truckers" are incorrigible. I am
    concerned with the plethora of American flags on these trucks and
    their fresh Bush - Cheney stickers that seem to get replaced often.

    I know two truckers. They're cool. They're Canadian, but they are cool.

    J "WASP" F

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