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Re: Bicycle dynamics vs. motorcycle dynamics

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  1. J.V. said:

    I could believe the blood flow part. But, I just don't believe that pushing
    against the back of the seat makes up for using your weight while standing
    (at least not for me). With standing you have in my case 150 lbs of
    practically free (energy consumption wise) force twice per revolution.
    Pushing against the seat takes considerably more effort.

    Same force, same effort.

    Quoted message said:

    Over a sustained
    climb I don't think the same person (who had equally trained bent and df
    trained muscles) would see the same performance pushing against the seat vs.
    standing on a df. I rode a swb for a couple years and got pretty good at
    it. Climbing was not an issue, but I could never compete with myself on a
    df.

    I, too, am somewhat faster uphill on a wedgie. Some wedgies, anyway.
    But I have never had the chance to compare like with like weightwise,
    and as noted elsewhere there are plenty of examples of 'bent riders
    beating mixed fields even where significant climbing is involved (Bram
    Moens springs to mind here).

    Guy
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  2. Just zis Guy said:


    I, too, am somewhat faster uphill on a wedgie. Some wedgies, anyway.
    But I have never had the chance to compare like with like weightwise...

    That would be a quick and easy thing to do. Surely, you can find 15
    pounds of steel to clamp to your wedgie frame?

    You could, of course, clamp on 15 pounds of aluminum. But that would
    be too harsh. ;-)

    - Frank Krygowski

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    Quoted message said:

    I, too, am somewhat faster uphill on a wedgie. Some wedgies, anyway.
    But I have never had the chance to compare like with like weightwise...

    Quoted message said:

    That would be a quick and easy thing to do. Surely, you can find 15
    pounds of steel to clamp to your wedgie frame?

    Damn, Frank, that's so simple it's brilliant! I will try it.

    Quoted message said:

    You could, of course, clamp on 15 pounds of aluminum. But that would
    be too harsh. ;-)

    Plus it might fatigue and break. Ti is the only way to go here. I
    wonder how much 15lb of Ti costs? Or maybe I should go with carbon
    fibre.

    Guy
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