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Re: Atkins "Nightmare" Diet

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  1. "DigitalVinyl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What they overlook is that "protein- and fat-rich foods may induce
    substantial insulin secretion" as well.74 For example, a quarter pound
    of beef raises insulin levels in diabetics as much as a quarter pound
    of straight sugar.75

    I think that's [censored]. Protein converts to carbs at something like 48%, over
    quite a lot of time - so the insulin need to cover beef is half that of
    sugar, over a much longer timescale.

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    And if Atkins diet increases insulin levels AND drops weight, it
    behooves the medical industry to understand WHY that dichotomy
    happens. becuase people DO lose weight.

    Again from a diabetic POV, that isn't what happens. Too much insulin is as
    bad (from a diet viewpoint) as too little. What is good about Atkins is that
    the carbs are mostly low and slower acting, mixed in with lots of fibre;
    that allows your pancreas to put out its lots of little spurts of insulin
    with a much better chance of matching the glucose availability, so it's all
    locked up in muscles instead of turned into fat. Then the weight loss
    reduces your insulin resistance - so the movement of glucose into muscles is
    easier - and it becomes a virtuous circle.

    Nicky.

    --
    A1c 10.5/5.7/<6 Weight 95/79/72Kg
    1g Metformin, 75ug Thyroxine
    T2 DX 05/2004

  2. god, lets face it. if everybody did low carb diets, we would be
    hitting EVERYBODY in the pocketbook... the food industry with their
    damn cookies and twinkies, the doctors and pharmaceutical companies
    with their lipitor and zocor drugs, agriculture, sugar growers, hell,
    who knows who else. if one looks back into history, you will find that
    salt was worth its weight in gold when it was brought back to europe...
    if their food was that bland - what were they eating? you killed it,
    you skinned it, you cooked it, you ate it. low carb isnt a new idea.
    more of humanity has survived eating this way longer than we have been
    on low fat diets. 15000 years vs the past 50. cmon now. its all
    about the benjamins.

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