Re: Ascorbic acid study

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Subject: Re: Ascorbic acid study
From: "Lou" lou(nospam)@411.com
Date: 7/31/2003 7:47 PM Pacific Standard Time
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"Lou" <lou(nospam)@411.com> wrote in
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My Take:
Note: "mortality due to all causes".
Just think of what higher levels induced via vitamin c supplementation
would provide.

That's called "extrapolating beyond the range of the data" and it's

usually

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a no-no. In biochemistry, almost nothing behaves in a strictly "more is
always better" or "less is always better" fashion when it comes to dosage.
The dose-response relationship over the entire range of possible dosages
may look completely different from the relationship over the restricted
range actually studied. Consider, for example, intake of calories. Over
part of the range of intake, increased intake results in better health.
Over another part of the range, increased intake is detrimental to health.
If you were to plot "level of health" against caloric intake, you'd see a
rise followed by a decline, with a peak in the middle. The same
relationship holds true for just about any nutrient, even water.

Therapeutic, safe, and essential ranges vary GREATLY according to the
nutrient.
There is no "iron clad" set range for any.
That's why science is continuing to research.
How was the RDA established? Through research. (RDA Established in 1941).
Kinda dated, huh? We've got to the point of elimination of deficiency
diseases,
however research is continuing in order to establish possible therapeutic,
and safe
levels of all nutrients.

Do you believe these studies are a waste of time?
I believe research on vitamins, minerals, herbs, and oils
should have a higher emphasis in medicine.
Why?
Although there are some drugs that are beneficial,
they are plagued with a plethora of contraindications.
If you can get the same, or better results with a nutrient (little, or no
contraindications), as compared to
a drug,(a nice sized insert), which would you choose?
This is why the existing studies must be continually reviewed,
and the continuation of scientific research on nutrients.

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In particular, there's some evidence that when the concentration of
ascorbate is increased beyond a particular level, it starts acting as a
pro-oxidant rather than an anti-oxidant.

I believe the study that you were referring to was in theory only (test
tube).
Please post the study.

BTW, I respect ALL of your opinions, but.................is this
alt.misc.health.alternative.debunkers?

Lou

Sadly, yes.

Anyone who reports success using alternative is trashed personally.

Jan